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Old 12-05-2010, 10:25 PM   #136 (permalink)
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I'm not a big fan of C&D anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered to me. I think both cars are good, so it's a moot point. Hey, you used to have a Z. There was a reason you bought it. Somehow, it appealed to you just like the new GT appeals to me now.
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How about MotorTrend? 'Cause they gave the Mustang props too... LOL
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I had a mustang before. Every 30000 miles something major would break down. Like clockwork up to the 100k mile mark its at now. I do wonder how the 5.0 handles with the suspension upgrades and brakes... but I couldn't see myself in another 'tang, or any other car but a Z
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I'm not saying you're knocking the Mustang, I'm just saying you know you'd be praising C&D if they called the Z one of their 10 best. Just exposing a double standard, is all. But it's a Z forum so it's not like that's bad or anything...
How about a thumbnail picture steve so we can see what color combination you found and bought departing the red 370
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I wanted more HP and TQ and a car that would handle mods good, especially the tranny so I went to the vette. They are fast and a good DD too. Loved my Z but the vette is making me happy too. So far I cant find any negatives about it compared to my Z but lots of pluses, but it does cost a bit more than the Z. I like that its not as common as the Z is getting now. And the stang too. lol. for Steve

Oh the paint is much better too.

Ins was cheaper too.
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no doubt the Corvette is a great car, and I am happy that I bought one.
The 2012 Boss Mustang, however, is going to be just that, Boss, and probably will run nose to nose with a base Corvette.
I must say though, I definitely miss the steering feedback of my 350z.
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it all comes down to if you want power or not.
the 5.0 will smoke our car on a high way roller,but on the track ,i see other wise.
my car owning trend has always been about handeling.
i got my rx7 with a perfect 50/50 and it just rocks fontana speed way,and willowsprings
and i have yet to bring my z out there so i dont know how it whould take the beating i will be giving. but we'll see.
my next car will be a lotus S. ;]
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I haven't driven the new 5.0, but I had an '06 GT. The car wasn't perfect, but it was surprising well built. It was pretty solid and virtually rattle-free. It drove well too, the live rear axle was fairly well behaved. Of course, a live rear usually doesn't have an independent rear's sophisticated feel or performance over mid-corner bumps. In that respect, the Z is noticeably better, IMO.

I bet the new GT is a real nice car. I must admit, it's tempting...that 5.0 sounds real good.

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I went to see cirque du soleil last night and there was two dodger vipers there. I have to tell you they might be fast and fun to drive once in a while but they are not very comfortable looking. Windows were sliding windows, etc. Not a dd for them.
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it all comes down to if you want power or not.
the 5.0 will smoke our car on a high way roller,but on the track ,i see other wise.
my car owning trend has always been about handeling.
i got my rx7 with a perfect 50/50 and it just rocks fontana speed way,and willowsprings
and i have yet to bring my z out there so i dont know how it whould take the beating i will be giving. but we'll see.
my next car will be a lotus S. ;]
The 2011 GT now almost exactly matches the M3 on the track. ( 2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT - Specs - Motor Trend ) I don't believe the 370Z can keep pace unless it's a very tight autocross (basically no straights). There are plenty of reasons to pick either car, but raw performance goes to the Stang as of now.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:19 PM   #147 (permalink)
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The 2011 GT now almost exactly matches the M3 on the track. ( 2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT - Specs - Motor Trend ) I don't believe the 370Z can keep pace unless it's a very tight autocross (basically no straights). There are plenty of reasons to pick either car, but raw performance goes to the Stang as of now.
That's the feeling I get from driving the two. The Mustang is better balanced and definitely faster, but the Z is more precise. All things being equal (i.e. conditions and driver skill) the Mustang absolutely will be quicker on any track save for some Auto X configurations.

That said, the Mustang is definitely the harder car to drive of the two. In some ways that makes it more fun to drive, but it's definitely going to be a little scary for an inexperienced driver. The Z has a good bit of understeer built into it which helps keeps you in check, whereas the Mustang is much more free to rotate through the center of a corner.

I think an inexperienced driver might be quicker in the Z than he would be in the Mustang around a track. Either way, both are ridiculously fun to drive.
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BTW, one good thing the Z has going for it is it's gas mileage. I could average 20 mpg with a 332+ hp daily driver and pull around 30 on the highway.

With the Mustang, I average 16-17 mpg and with the 3.73 gear I might get 25 on the highway. It doesn't matter if it's just a fun weekend car, but if you drive it every day it kind of gets on your nerves. It also sucks that I only have a 16 gallon tank as opposed to 19 in the Z. An extra 3 gallons would have been nice for extended range.

On our caravan down to ZDayZ we are going to have to make one more stop than last year because some jerk can't make it all the way on two stops.
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If they had priced the 5.0's the way they did with the base GT in 2005 (~$25k range) then I would be driving one right now. Not trying to sound condescending or a mustang hater but comparing the base 370z (which I got mine at $28k before the car I was trading in) to the base mustang GT is literally NIGHT AND DAY. I was extremely unhappy with the interior of the base mustang GT and especially unhappy with the price ($31k+). So even after dealer markup and all things considered with the 370z it was literally $20k out of pocket for me ($9500 trade-in with my '04 Mini Cooper S).

So not including trade-in my base 370z was $29.5k. I couldn't find a single '11 Mustang GT that was under $31k BEFORE tax, dealer crap, etc. My '09 370z is appraised at about $26k at 9k miles. Take that into consideration with ~$33k from a Mustang GT after all the additional fees, and I had like $1750 cash in rebates, etc, it's still $26,000 vs $31,250. I honestly cannot justify trading in my fun little red sports car PLUS $5k in cash for a Mustang GT. Sorry Ford, but your silly pricing has lost you a customer.
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I agree with you regarding the base vs. base comparison. The base Z has much nicer cloth seats (not mouse-fur like most manufacturers use) and you still get the premium steering wheel and leather console.

With the base Mustang you lose the premium steering wheel and dash treatment and it is really very basic. I'd only buy one if I was planing on tearing it down and building a track machine or I had very specific plans for a street machine that would involve tearing all the premium features out anyways.

That's too bad about the pricing, though. I was able to score mine a little under invoice.
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