Found some new things to complain about

crash1369

exactly it would only take a second if they were manual.

Honestly I would rather have manual seats in most cases, but their considered to cheap for good cars these days. Unless the power seats have memory, that's nice, otherwise I could care less

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ProfessorDave

I would also prefer manual seats (unless there is a memory feature), but find it difficult to find manufacturers that offer heated seats that aren't also power seat. I like heated seats

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ImportConvert

I am partial to roll-up windows, manual seat adjustment, and the like. All this electronic junk is jsut something to break. regarding the seats, it makes them heavier. Regarding the windows, I think it's about break-even. However, you just take the door-panels off and grease things up when a roll-up gives you trouble. When an electric does, you often have to drill holes in the fiberglass door-panel to remove it. There is no way to remove a window-motor from many cars without 1) Drilling the rivets out of the glass (VERY risky to the window) or 2) drilling through door-structure.

The thing is, if Porsche deleted electric windows/seats, they would sell it as an "R" or "RS" model and charge more for it, and people would hoot and holler with joy. If Ford/Nissan/GM did it, and made it standard with the power ameneties a reasonably affordable option, everyone would whine and complain.

I have owned both. Personally, I prefer leather. I don't view it as "dressy" or anything. It's nice. When you floor it and soda shoots out your passenger's nose, it's easier to wipe up. When you get in the car on a hot day and sweat before the car cools off, it doesn't imbed countless days of such's grime/sweat into the seat. Etc.

The thing about cloth is that you can clean them fully, easier. My Dad owns a carpet-cleaning company and cloth interiors can be made like new with very little effort.

I still prefer leather. I like knowing that something was sacrificed for my decadence. :P

I bent over/into a 370Z on the lot and dropped my safety scissors into this. It was rediculous. It took help to get them. They (along with pencil's) constantly fall out of my front scrub pocket and I hate it, but I have not found a practical solution to that yet. Will probably buy mechanical pencils and superglue a clip onto the scissors before long. It's getting annoying.

Nismo221

Hit the 20s last night coming home from work. No weird nosies but I'm really worried my windows are going to stick some time this winter.

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kenchan

i prefer manual cloth seats on sports cars. when you add too much luxury it just seems to be more of a dressup car and not a driving enthusiast's car.

m4a1mustang

If it's a weekend/fun car I agree with you.

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kenchan

my Z is absolutely that.

Jordo!

Ditto.

I can't stand waiting patiently for the motor to shuttle my ass back and forth to the correct positon. So much easier to just use a manual slider.

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LunaZ

My complaint is the placement of the cargo cover.
It's a few inches back from the chassis brace... a few inches that would make a huge difference in what I can fit back there if it was further forward.

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ProfessorDave

Yeah, I have that thing out or lying on the "trunk" floor often. I haven't actually used it yet, but could imagine wanting to cover up an overnight bag or something when traveling.

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RedBullRR

I have a minor complaint. It doesn't matter whether i washed the car weeks ago or it rained weeks ago. Whenever I roll my window down its as if I just washed the car when I roll it back up. Smudged with water marks. I know silly complaint but I hate having to fkn wipe down the window anytime i decide to roll it down.

crash1369

Check the seals along the bottom of the windows, their probably not even touching the glass. Mine weren't

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christian370z

Exactly, whatever falls seems to fall just far enough under the seat to the point where you can feel it with your finger tips but any attempt to grab it instantly pushes it just out of reach.

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LMBmikeZ

.....................or if people didn't try to drive sports cars in the winter, then these problems would be none existent!

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m4a1mustang

There's nothing wrong with driving them in the winter.

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