Considering buying 370z.

ImportConvert · 11-10-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by I want a Z

I agree with many of ImportConvert's points, but ...
I have been shopping for a new toy for awhile and plan to buy an 11' Z in the spring.
For a while I was obsessed with 0-60 times and drove everything under the sun from the 5.0 to an M3 and I keep coming back to the Z, it puts a smile on my face just sitting in it. And when it comes down to it, the Z is really fast on the street, as fast as I will ever need to go. Yes, the 5.0 is about a 1/2 sec faster 0-60, but who really cares. The Z is a really fun car do drive and that's all that really matters.

Buy what makes you happy. A number is just a number. If one car makes you smile--and the other not so much, then I think you know what to do.

TypeOne · 11-10-2010, 09:36 AM

I've owned Mustangs, Camaros, Subarus, Hondas and Toyotas...

Before I made the choice to get a Z, I looked at almost every other car in the same price range. 5.0s, SS Camaro, Subaru STi, Evo X... even a C6 Vette...

When it comes down to quality, I wasn't impressed with how the Mustangs were built... sure the powertrains are strong (we all know that) but the interior of those cars must have got the left over parts from the F150s or something because they were bland and boring. The Camaro was similar, but not as bad. Maybe it's just my prejudice against American made cars but I can't stand them.

In any case, I think there are a ton of reasons why to get a 370Z, but make sure it's going to be what you really want.

I love the way my car looks, I love the way it sounds, I love the way it feels when I drive it, I love that it is a Z car and it has a long heritage and most importantly, I love that it isn't a Mustang or Camaro. :-D

m4a1mustang · 11-10-2010, 09:42 AM

Get whatever makes you happy and have fun. It's just a car. You can always change things up down the road (look at me!). Just get what you want right now and ENJOY it. The day you start thinking you might be happier with something else, then go give that a shot.

FUN! That's what life's all about, right?

MakoFury · 11-10-2010, 10:46 AM

I too looked at everything under the sun in this price range...Evo X, STi, 335i, E46 M3...ultimately I picked the Z for the combination of looks, interior, handling, and decent speed. Evo X has great handling and potential for speed but the interior is really bland and the exterior is a bit ricey, same for the STi.

It's amazing that we're at the point where a 5 sec 0-60 is considered somewhat slow at $30-40k. I just didn't consider the Mustang GT because it's just not my style, sounds like a great car though for the right person.

Hoping to get my 2011 Z in the next few months!

m4a1mustang · 11-10-2010, 10:54 AM

It's funny that the people that get their panties in a wad over those specs will never see a track to begin with. The Z is a stout car. It's quick, it's fast, and it's fun. If you like it, get it!

kensin0429 · 11-10-2010, 12:15 PM

no oil coolers? how does oil cool ??

spearfish25 · 11-10-2010, 12:30 PM

Import, I hear what you're saying and 'get it'. However, Nissan specifically targeted the 370Z at the BASE Cayman, BMW Z4, and the Audi TTS. Not the Cayman S, Z06, GT500 or even the Mustang GT or Camaro SS. They didn't care about price points except that Nissan's beat all three of those competitors. Nissan wanted base Cayman, Z4, and TTS blood and essentially got it at the time the 370Z debuted.

Remember this?:http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/08/14/ne...n-competitors/

We the consumer, given our budgets and general interest in performance then make all the analogies you provided.

Suffice to say that the Z performs well, beats out the three main competitors that Nissan initially targeted, and makes the majority of its owners very very happy.

...and to the last posted question: the oil is cooled by air, with or without a cooler.

LuckyJinx · 11-10-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kensin0429

no oil coolers? how does oil cool ??

Time.

spearfish25 · 11-10-2010, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kensin0429

no oil coolers? how does oil cool ??

Three words...

Nissan Ester Oil

It's the 'Chuck Norris' of the 370Z.

chuckd05 · 11-10-2010, 01:55 PM

Import, Ive read over all your threads, some redundant and all they do is pick apart the apparent " flaws " of this car that a few forum members post about. You stir the pot and act like you know about the car.

Your trans am is also a disgusting car IMO and I wouldn't take it for free. The fact the clutch felt better to you is prob because it was YOUR car and its what YOU are used to, just like we like the 370z stuff.

IMO you come on here acting like a know it all and I really never get like this but you and your threads/posts just rub me the wrong way. Its amazing that you consider this car at all because almost every thread and post you make you put ur trans am on a pedestal and act like its better than the Z ...

I will guarantee put a pro driver in the 370 and in your trans am and the Z will absolutely demolish the trans am around a road coarse ... Of coarse if you throw cams + bolt ons to a big v8 it will make power but with that power do you get anything else ?

On another note my car has a intakes, test pipes , exhaust , a tune, OIL COOLER , springs, etc and my car was just in for warranty work and they actually complimented me for getting an oil cooler. Nissan is well aware the motor runs hot and will not void your warranty for it. If you blow a hose off your cooler, leak all your oil and continue to beat the piss out of you car, yea it can get voided, IF they know that happened. Thats about it.

The Z will also beat every single SRT 8 out in the 1/4 stock IF driven correctly and be right there with SS's and GT's. And lets not forget the Z came out first BEFORE the 5.0, it laughs at 09 GT's by a significant margain in every aspect imaginable. Some test only show the 5.0 13.1-13.0 but I do agree they are faster/more capable 1/4 mile cars ... When I ran my 12.9 there was a camaro SS with Long Tubes and a flash and he did no better than 13.0 in his Auto...

Jnaut went 12.3 with bolt ons and a good launch... how many SS camaros run 12.3 ? Not as many as you think. The Z will run circles around the z4 and regular caymen, caymen S is a fine machine but way more money and is worthy of its price tag.

But out of all those cars I still take the Z ...

also MANY corvette guys have driven Z's and actually had more "fun" in the Z ... straight line acceleration is just one aspect of a car. The car handles phenomenal, I drive the e92 m3 when ever I can get my buddy to swap our cars for a few hours and our car is 85% of that car, and dare I say this because there will be nay sayers, but on a private road by us , me and him went at it several times, once to a VERY high speed and EVERY SINGLE TIME the outcome was within a few feet of each other either way. 6m e92 M3 ... and that car is used as a benchmark for track beasts and my buddy litteraly sweats that my Z feels as good as it does. The Z is absolutely no slouch and out of all those cars looks as nice as any of them except the M ...

m4a1mustang · 11-10-2010, 01:59 PM

Give this man rep!!!

spearfish25 · 11-10-2010, 02:14 PM

^^rep given

chuckd05 · 11-10-2010, 02:16 PM

got a little carried away but I litteraly just looked over 100s of his posts and they all come across as him being an arrogant know it all who loves to talk about his old trans am that he traded in for a classier g20 and that he is confortbale with money ... why do i know or care ? Im not sure, but I do, and it bothers me... LMAO

m4a1mustang · 11-10-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

got a little carried away but I litteraly just looked over 100s of his posts and they all come across as him being an arrogant know it all who loves to talk about his old trans am that he traded in for a classier g20 and that he is confortbale with money ... why do i know or care ? Im not sure, but I do, and it bothers me... LMAO

Welcome to the club.

jakoye · 11-10-2010, 02:22 PM

Awww, you guys are too hard on him. He's just young and a bit immature (I think he said he's 25). I'm sure you weren't "all grown up" at that age either.

Besides, I think a little controversy is more interesting on a forum than just one big circle jerk.

11-10-2010, 09:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Get whatever makes you happy and have fun. It's just a car. You can always change things up down the road (look at me!). Just get what you want right now and ENJOY it. The day you start thinking you might be happier with something else, then go give that a shot. FUN! That's what life's all about, right? __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-10-2010, 10:54 AM	#20 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	It's funny that the people that get their panties in a wad over those specs will never see a track to begin with. The Z is a stout car. It's quick, it's fast, and it's fun. If you like it, get it! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-10-2010, 12:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Import, I hear what you're saying and 'get it'. However, Nissan specifically targeted the 370Z at the BASE Cayman, BMW Z4, and the Audi TTS. Not the Cayman S, Z06, GT500 or even the Mustang GT or Camaro SS. They didn't care about price points except that Nissan's beat all three of those competitors. Nissan wanted base Cayman, Z4, and TTS blood and essentially got it at the time the 370Z debuted. Remember this?:http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/08/14/ne...n-competitors/ We the consumer, given our budgets and general interest in performance then make all the analogies you provided. Suffice to say that the Z performs well, beats out the three main competitors that Nissan initially targeted, and makes the majority of its owners very very happy. ...and to the last posted question: the oil is cooled by air, with or without a cooler. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z Last edited by spearfish25; 11-10-2010 at 12:39 PM.

11-10-2010, 01:55 PM	#25 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Import, Ive read over all your threads, some redundant and all they do is pick apart the apparent " flaws " of this car that a few forum members post about. You stir the pot and act like you know about the car. Your trans am is also a disgusting car IMO and I wouldn't take it for free. The fact the clutch felt better to you is prob because it was YOUR car and its what YOU are used to, just like we like the 370z stuff. IMO you come on here acting like a know it all and I really never get like this but you and your threads/posts just rub me the wrong way. Its amazing that you consider this car at all because almost every thread and post you make you put ur trans am on a pedestal and act like its better than the Z ... I will guarantee put a pro driver in the 370 and in your trans am and the Z will absolutely demolish the trans am around a road coarse ... Of coarse if you throw cams + bolt ons to a big v8 it will make power but with that power do you get anything else ? On another note my car has a intakes, test pipes , exhaust , a tune, OIL COOLER , springs, etc and my car was just in for warranty work and they actually complimented me for getting an oil cooler. Nissan is well aware the motor runs hot and will not void your warranty for it. If you blow a hose off your cooler, leak all your oil and continue to beat the piss out of you car, yea it can get voided, IF they know that happened. Thats about it. The Z will also beat every single SRT 8 out in the 1/4 stock IF driven correctly and be right there with SS's and GT's. And lets not forget the Z came out first BEFORE the 5.0, it laughs at 09 GT's by a significant margain in every aspect imaginable. Some test only show the 5.0 13.1-13.0 but I do agree they are faster/more capable 1/4 mile cars ... When I ran my 12.9 there was a camaro SS with Long Tubes and a flash and he did no better than 13.0 in his Auto... Jnaut went 12.3 with bolt ons and a good launch... how many SS camaros run 12.3 ? Not as many as you think. The Z will run circles around the z4 and regular caymen, caymen S is a fine machine but way more money and is worthy of its price tag. But out of all those cars I still take the Z ... also MANY corvette guys have driven Z's and actually had more "fun" in the Z ... straight line acceleration is just one aspect of a car. The car handles phenomenal, I drive the e92 m3 when ever I can get my buddy to swap our cars for a few hours and our car is 85% of that car, and dare I say this because there will be nay sayers, but on a private road by us , me and him went at it several times, once to a VERY high speed and EVERY SINGLE TIME the outcome was within a few feet of each other either way. 6m e92 M3 ... and that car is used as a benchmark for track beasts and my buddy litteraly sweats that my Z feels as good as it does. The Z is absolutely no slouch and out of all those cars looks as nice as any of them except the M ... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 11-10-2010 at 01:58 PM.

11-10-2010, 01:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Give this man rep!!! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-10-2010, 09:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
TypeOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 2,682 Drives: BSM 370 Rep Power: 1851	I've owned Mustangs, Camaros, Subarus, Hondas and Toyotas... Before I made the choice to get a Z, I looked at almost every other car in the same price range. 5.0s, SS Camaro, Subaru STi, Evo X... even a C6 Vette... When it comes down to quality, I wasn't impressed with how the Mustangs were built... sure the powertrains are strong (we all know that) but the interior of those cars must have got the left over parts from the F150s or something because they were bland and boring. The Camaro was similar, but not as bad. Maybe it's just my prejudice against American made cars but I can't stand them. In any case, I think there are a ton of reasons why to get a 370Z, but make sure it's going to be what you really want. I love the way my car looks, I love the way it sounds, I love the way it feels when I drive it, I love that it is a Z car and it has a long heritage and most importantly, I love that it isn't a Mustang or Camaro. :-D

11-10-2010, 10:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
MakoFury Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 35 Drives: 2011-370Z-GunM-6MT Rep Power: 15	I too looked at everything under the sun in this price range...Evo X, STi, 335i, E46 M3...ultimately I picked the Z for the combination of looks, interior, handling, and decent speed. Evo X has great handling and potential for speed but the interior is really bland and the exterior is a bit ricey, same for the STi. It's amazing that we're at the point where a 5 sec 0-60 is considered somewhat slow at $30-40k. I just didn't consider the Mustang GT because it's just not my style, sounds like a great car though for the right person. Hoping to get my 2011 Z in the next few months!

11-10-2010, 12:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
kensin0429 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: palmsprings Posts: 244 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 16	no oil coolers? how does oil cool ??

11-10-2010, 02:14 PM	#27 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	^^rep given __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

11-10-2010, 02:16 PM	#28 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	got a little carried away but I litteraly just looked over 100s of his posts and they all come across as him being an arrogant know it all who loves to talk about his old trans am that he traded in for a classier g20 and that he is confortbale with money ... why do i know or care ? Im not sure, but I do, and it bothers me... LMAO __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

11-10-2010, 02:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
jakoye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 257 Drives: 06 Mustang GT Rep Power: 16	Awww, you guys are too hard on him. He's just young and a bit immature (I think he said he's 25). I'm sure you weren't "all grown up" at that age either. Besides, I think a little controversy is more interesting on a forum than just one big circle jerk. __________________ Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven.

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