The new Camaros!

MikeGTO · 03-18-2009, 05:00 PM

Also, 8:19 around the 'Ring aint bad. Assuming the report is true.

frost · 03-18-2009, 08:46 PM

^ I believe it to be true, since they had reports and video of it doing 1 second slower in October.

enenen · 03-18-2009, 09:54 PM

is there a 370z ring time? i have looked and couldn't find anything.

frost · 03-18-2009, 10:32 PM

^ Not yet apparently

DJcuetip · 03-19-2009, 02:48 AM

looks like a beast

tvfreakazoid · 03-19-2009, 02:55 AM

OH wouldn't it had been soooo sweet if the 370 had at least 350hp or more.

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Originally Posted by SMJane_Again

Totally agree with you, TV, the Z IS heavy for its size. But it's still 400-500 pounds lighter than the Camaro, which is why it doesn't need such a big engine to motivate it down the road (my original point).

400-500 pounds. A quarter of a ton. For what? For back seats that are gonna be cramped anyway? A BMW 7 series the Camaro isn't. The SS will be a cool party piece for sure. People will hear your arrival long before they actually see you drive up. Awesome. That V8 has got loads of tuning potential. Great. But how spectacular could that car have been if Chevy had decided to not go pound for pound with Chrysler/Dodge?

S.

Logansneo · 03-19-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Well the z is heavy for it's size. So they kind of even out for power to weight ratio.

370Z

10.10 lb/hp
12.42 lb/tq
weight distribution 55/45

Camaro SS M6

9.03 lb/hp
9.16 lb/tq
weight distribution 52/48

That looks a bit in favor of the Camaro in my opinion, but I'd give vital organs to have the 370's rev matching feature in the SS!

MightyBobo · 03-19-2009, 06:30 AM

Ive long been a fan of Camaro's. I owned a 2000 and still own a 69 (for sale). I was definitely planning on getting the new Camaro when it came out, but it just gets harder and harder to make a choice. Get a LOT of power/performance in a used C6 Z51 for 30K? Get a brand new (very fast to depreciate) 370Z that isnt QUITE as good as a C6...but isnt bad either way? Or follow my roots and get a new Camaro just because it has a place in my heart? Heavier and wont handle nearly as well as a C6 Z51...but Im sure its still a fun car.

Either way, I love the styling on it - in particular, black with the HID package and the darker wheels - that looks hot if you ask me

. I'll try to get a screenshot of it...

m4a1mustang · 03-19-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by zsport1

The Camaro design looks cool but I wouldn't choose it over the 370Z. and definitely would not buy a GM product with the state the company is in.
And if the new Mustang is anything like the rental I had a couple of weeks ago no thanks. That was the biggest turd I have driven in years. My truck drives better.

Was it a V6? Those are supposed to be turds.

LiquidZ · 03-19-2009, 08:09 AM

Mustang fan here, so you already know what I'm going to say.

Outrun · 03-20-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker57676

I really like the styling of the Camaro, but in person you really get a sense of its size. The damn thing is huge and it looks every bit of 2 tons. It just doesn't look like a proper sports car in person. Aside from just looking heavy, it really is a porker and will not make me happy on a road course.

Mark

PS: I was seriously considering the Camaro but lurking on Camaro5.com cured me of ever wanting one. If the members of that site are typical Camaro owners, I don't want to be lumped together with those annoying, childish "enthusiasts." Never have I ever run across a bigger group of fanboys blind to reality.

Hello Mark. Let's keep the discussion on topic-camaro. Enough of the elitist attitude.

By saying what you did about the "camaro owners" puts you in the "childish" category. Grow up.

Robert_Nash · 03-20-2009, 04:26 PM

My

I respect Mustangs…I hate them and would not own one even if I worked for Ford but I still respect them and that’s pretty much how I feel about Dodge/Chrysler as well.

I’ve owned four F-bodies three Pontiac’s (two of them TransAMs) and one Camaro (Z/28; an “00) and I’ve loved every single one of them but wouldn’t own a new Camaro over a Z even if I didn’t work for Nissan.

GMs powertrain, particularly is fabulous, interiors suck canal water but as someone mentioned, that’s not why you buy a Camaro (or a “Vette for that matter) but the interiors still suck and you really come to know that (and start to get irritated with it) as the cars get some age/use on them.

I like the looks of the new Camaro yet I really am disappointed with all the retro stuff going on…it’s funny; over at CamaroZ28.com there was a huge argument about whether the car was “retro” even though one of the lead designers said specifically that they wanted it to look as much like the “69 as possible!

Frankly, whether one likes the retro look or not, I think GM has missed that boat as I think the whole retro thing is one it’s way out even while GM is just now bring the Camaro to market.

I truly hope the new Camaro is successful and that they continue the car for succeeding generations but I think my F-body days are long gone and if I ever buy another GM product again, it will likely be something from the ‘60s or ‘70’s that I can restore and just have fun with.

jakoye · 03-20-2009, 07:08 PM

Every review I've read on the new Camaro has been very positive.

Looks like it's a real competitor to the Z, unlike the Challenger and Mustang.

Robert_Nash · 03-21-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

Every review I've read on the new Camaro has been very positive.

Looks like it's a real competitor to the Z, unlike the Challenger and Mustang.

Frankly, I consider a true sports car like the Z to be so unlike a pony car that I've never considered them competition...there are just plain different animals.

I know some people will cross shop but it likely makes more sense to compare the Z to a Z4 or a Boxster or any other number of sports cars than any pony car.

MC · 03-21-2009, 01:40 AM

edmunds just tested the camaro 13.0 @ 110 in the 1/4

Predictably, one of the Camaro's obvious rivals, the big-'n-brawny Dodge Challenger R/T can't keep pace. It takes 5.5 seconds for the Mopar to reach 60 mph (5.3 with 1 foot of rollout) and 13.9 seconds to reach the quarter-mile, at which point it's steaming along at 103.2 mph. In fact, the Camaro SS is slightly quicker in both measures than the similarly powered Challenger SRT8. The 2010 Mustang makes up for much of its 111-hp power deficit with about a 500-pound weight advantage on the hefty Camaro. The Mustang with a Track Pack will do zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds (4.9 with rollout) and get through the quarter-mile in 13.5 seconds at 102.9 mph. The Camaro is quicker through the quarter by half-a-second than the Nissan 370Z, which Chevy also considers a Camaro competitor

03-20-2009, 04:26 PM	#42 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 17	My I respect Mustangs…I hate them and would not own one even if I worked for Ford but I still respect them and that’s pretty much how I feel about Dodge/Chrysler as well. I’ve owned four F-bodies three Pontiac’s (two of them TransAMs) and one Camaro (Z/28; an “00) and I’ve loved every single one of them but wouldn’t own a new Camaro over a Z even if I didn’t work for Nissan. GMs powertrain, particularly is fabulous, interiors suck canal water but as someone mentioned, that’s not why you buy a Camaro (or a “Vette for that matter) but the interiors still suck and you really come to know that (and start to get irritated with it) as the cars get some age/use on them. I like the looks of the new Camaro yet I really am disappointed with all the retro stuff going on…it’s funny; over at CamaroZ28.com there was a huge argument about whether the car was “retro” even though one of the lead designers said specifically that they wanted it to look as much like the “69 as possible! Frankly, whether one likes the retro look or not, I think GM has missed that boat as I think the whole retro thing is one it’s way out even while GM is just now bring the Camaro to market. I truly hope the new Camaro is successful and that they continue the car for succeeding generations but I think my F-body days are long gone and if I ever buy another GM product again, it will likely be something from the ‘60s or ‘70’s that I can restore and just have fun with. __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

03-20-2009, 07:08 PM	#43 (permalink)
jakoye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 257 Drives: 06 Mustang GT Rep Power: 16	Every review I've read on the new Camaro has been very positive. Looks like it's a real competitor to the Z, unlike the Challenger and Mustang. __________________ Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven.

03-18-2009, 05:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
MikeGTO Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 18 Drives: '04 Pontiac GTO Rep Power: 16	Also, 8:19 around the 'Ring aint bad. Assuming the report is true.

03-18-2009, 08:46 PM	#32 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	^ I believe it to be true, since they had reports and video of it doing 1 second slower in October.

03-18-2009, 09:54 PM	#33 (permalink)
enenen Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 30 Drives: 06 Nissan Frontier Rep Power: 16	is there a 370z ring time? i have looked and couldn't find anything.

03-18-2009, 10:32 PM	#34 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	^ Not yet apparently

03-19-2009, 02:48 AM	#35 (permalink)
DJcuetip Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA Posts: 704 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 259	looks like a beast

03-19-2009, 06:30 AM	#38 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	Ive long been a fan of Camaro's. I owned a 2000 and still own a 69 (for sale). I was definitely planning on getting the new Camaro when it came out, but it just gets harder and harder to make a choice. Get a LOT of power/performance in a used C6 Z51 for 30K? Get a brand new (very fast to depreciate) 370Z that isnt QUITE as good as a C6...but isnt bad either way? Or follow my roots and get a new Camaro just because it has a place in my heart? Heavier and wont handle nearly as well as a C6 Z51...but Im sure its still a fun car. Either way, I love the styling on it - in particular, black with the HID package and the darker wheels - that looks hot if you ask me . I'll try to get a screenshot of it...

03-19-2009, 08:09 AM	#40 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	Mustang fan here, so you already know what I'm going to say.

03-21-2009, 01:40 AM	#45 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	edmunds just tested the camaro 13.0 @ 110 in the 1/4 Predictably, one of the Camaro's obvious rivals, the big-'n-brawny Dodge Challenger R/T can't keep pace. It takes 5.5 seconds for the Mopar to reach 60 mph (5.3 with 1 foot of rollout) and 13.9 seconds to reach the quarter-mile, at which point it's steaming along at 103.2 mph. In fact, the Camaro SS is slightly quicker in both measures than the similarly powered Challenger SRT8. The 2010 Mustang makes up for much of its 111-hp power deficit with about a 500-pound weight advantage on the hefty Camaro. The Mustang with a Track Pack will do zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds (4.9 with rollout) and get through the quarter-mile in 13.5 seconds at 102.9 mph. The Camaro is quicker through the quarter by half-a-second than the Nissan 370Z, which Chevy also considers a Camaro competitor