The new Camaros!

MikeGTO · 03-18-2009, 04:00 PM

Also, 8:19 around the 'Ring aint bad. Assuming the report is true.

frost · 03-18-2009, 07:46 PM

^ I believe it to be true, since they had reports and video of it doing 1 second slower in October.

enenen · 03-18-2009, 08:54 PM

is there a 370z ring time? i have looked and couldn't find anything.

frost · 03-18-2009, 09:32 PM

^ Not yet apparently

DJcuetip · 03-19-2009, 01:48 AM

looks like a beast

MightyBobo · 03-19-2009, 05:30 AM

Ive long been a fan of Camaro's. I owned a 2000 and still own a 69 (for sale). I was definitely planning on getting the new Camaro when it came out, but it just gets harder and harder to make a choice. Get a LOT of power/performance in a used C6 Z51 for 30K? Get a brand new (very fast to depreciate) 370Z that isnt QUITE as good as a C6...but isnt bad either way? Or follow my roots and get a new Camaro just because it has a place in my heart? Heavier and wont handle nearly as well as a C6 Z51...but Im sure its still a fun car.

Either way, I love the styling on it - in particular, black with the HID package and the darker wheels - that looks hot if you ask me

. I'll try to get a screenshot of it...

LiquidZ · 03-19-2009, 07:09 AM

Mustang fan here, so you already know what I'm going to say.

Robert_Nash · 03-20-2009, 03:26 PM

My

I respect Mustangs…I hate them and would not own one even if I worked for Ford but I still respect them and that’s pretty much how I feel about Dodge/Chrysler as well.

I’ve owned four F-bodies three Pontiac’s (two of them TransAMs) and one Camaro (Z/28; an “00) and I’ve loved every single one of them but wouldn’t own a new Camaro over a Z even if I didn’t work for Nissan.

GMs powertrain, particularly is fabulous, interiors suck canal water but as someone mentioned, that’s not why you buy a Camaro (or a “Vette for that matter) but the interiors still suck and you really come to know that (and start to get irritated with it) as the cars get some age/use on them.

I like the looks of the new Camaro yet I really am disappointed with all the retro stuff going on…it’s funny; over at CamaroZ28.com there was a huge argument about whether the car was “retro” even though one of the lead designers said specifically that they wanted it to look as much like the “69 as possible!

Frankly, whether one likes the retro look or not, I think GM has missed that boat as I think the whole retro thing is one it’s way out even while GM is just now bring the Camaro to market.

I truly hope the new Camaro is successful and that they continue the car for succeeding generations but I think my F-body days are long gone and if I ever buy another GM product again, it will likely be something from the ‘60s or ‘70’s that I can restore and just have fun with.

jakoye · 03-20-2009, 06:08 PM

Every review I've read on the new Camaro has been very positive.

Looks like it's a real competitor to the Z, unlike the Challenger and Mustang.

Robert_Nash · 03-20-2009, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakoye

Every review I've read on the new Camaro has been very positive.

Looks like it's a real competitor to the Z, unlike the Challenger and Mustang.

Frankly, I consider a true sports car like the Z to be so unlike a pony car that I've never considered them competition...there are just plain different animals.

I know some people will cross shop but it likely makes more sense to compare the Z to a Z4 or a Boxster or any other number of sports cars than any pony car.

MC · 03-21-2009, 12:40 AM

edmunds just tested the camaro 13.0 @ 110 in the 1/4

Predictably, one of the Camaro's obvious rivals, the big-'n-brawny Dodge Challenger R/T can't keep pace. It takes 5.5 seconds for the Mopar to reach 60 mph (5.3 with 1 foot of rollout) and 13.9 seconds to reach the quarter-mile, at which point it's steaming along at 103.2 mph. In fact, the Camaro SS is slightly quicker in both measures than the similarly powered Challenger SRT8. The 2010 Mustang makes up for much of its 111-hp power deficit with about a 500-pound weight advantage on the hefty Camaro. The Mustang with a Track Pack will do zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds (4.9 with rollout) and get through the quarter-mile in 13.5 seconds at 102.9 mph. The Camaro is quicker through the quarter by half-a-second than the Nissan 370Z, which Chevy also considers a Camaro competitor

Asheth · 03-21-2009, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC@MYGTR

edmunds just tested the camaro 13.0 @ 110 in the 1/4

Predictably, one of the Camaro's obvious rivals, the big-'n-brawny Dodge Challenger R/T can't keep pace. It takes 5.5 seconds for the Mopar to reach 60 mph (5.3 with 1 foot of rollout) and 13.9 seconds to reach the quarter-mile, at which point it's steaming along at 103.2 mph. In fact, the Camaro SS is slightly quicker in both measures than the similarly powered Challenger SRT8. The 2010 Mustang makes up for much of its 111-hp power deficit with about a 500-pound weight advantage on the hefty Camaro. The Mustang with a Track Pack will do zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds (4.9 with rollout) and get through the quarter-mile in 13.5 seconds at 102.9 mph. The Camaro is quicker through the quarter by half-a-second than the Nissan 370Z, which Chevy also considers a Camaro competitor

Yes now it is officially a competition now. All the other "Muscle Cars" didn't perform so well outside of the Mustang IMO. Now was is good that most Z owners should feel good about I think is that it shows Nissan's superior Engineering!! It takes chevy to drop in the base Corvette engine. They talk all they want about there V6 but "Hello McFly" the Z is a V6 that is leaps and bounds better than there V6 and the Z is so close to the performance of the top of the line Camaro that when Direct-Injection is added or the Nismo Version arrives the Z will be back on top of the performance numbers game, the Camaro already has Direct-Injection bTW. But with those numbers it is a drivers race anyway. I for one am extremely proud of what Nissan accomplished with the 370z and someone who cross shops these 2 cars will probably decide on necessity of a backseat and interior quality.

If someone is cross-shopping these 2 vehicles then the argument of a backseat should be settled as soon as the Z entered into the equation because

My opinion:
Exterior is subjective:

Interior is not Z wins hands down

Performance depends on how much rubber you like burning and big V-8 growl verses great handling. From a technical aspect the Z wins.

MC this is not directed at you at all. Just my rant on the topic

Educ8r · 03-21-2009, 05:44 PM

"With the Camaro, GM has chosen to stick with the muscle car archetype rather than push the limits of what's possible, it's not likely to win many conquests from more adept sportscars like the 370Z, Audi TT and BMW 3-series as Chevy hopes it will."

Source

tvfreakazoid · 03-23-2009, 04:29 AM

Damn $90 per HP that's too much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Educ8r

"With the Camaro, GM has chosen to stick with the muscle car archetype rather than push the limits of what's possible, it's not likely to win many conquests from more adept sportscars like the 370Z, Audi TT and BMW 3-series as Chevy hopes it will."

Source

tvfreakazoid · 03-23-2009, 04:46 AM

But it only takes a couple of thousands to make the muscle car go faster where as the imports take at least double or triple to equal the muscle cars. That's one of the things I dont like about the imports. Takes to much just to get a few HP's.

03-20-2009, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 18	My I respect Mustangs…I hate them and would not own one even if I worked for Ford but I still respect them and that’s pretty much how I feel about Dodge/Chrysler as well. I’ve owned four F-bodies three Pontiac’s (two of them TransAMs) and one Camaro (Z/28; an “00) and I’ve loved every single one of them but wouldn’t own a new Camaro over a Z even if I didn’t work for Nissan. GMs powertrain, particularly is fabulous, interiors suck canal water but as someone mentioned, that’s not why you buy a Camaro (or a “Vette for that matter) but the interiors still suck and you really come to know that (and start to get irritated with it) as the cars get some age/use on them. I like the looks of the new Camaro yet I really am disappointed with all the retro stuff going on…it’s funny; over at CamaroZ28.com there was a huge argument about whether the car was “retro” even though one of the lead designers said specifically that they wanted it to look as much like the “69 as possible! Frankly, whether one likes the retro look or not, I think GM has missed that boat as I think the whole retro thing is one it’s way out even while GM is just now bring the Camaro to market. I truly hope the new Camaro is successful and that they continue the car for succeeding generations but I think my F-body days are long gone and if I ever buy another GM product again, it will likely be something from the ‘60s or ‘70’s that I can restore and just have fun with. __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

03-20-2009, 06:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
jakoye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 257 Drives: 06 Mustang GT Rep Power: 17	Every review I've read on the new Camaro has been very positive. Looks like it's a real competitor to the Z, unlike the Challenger and Mustang. __________________ Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven.

03-21-2009, 05:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Educ8r Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 397 Drives: a car Rep Power: 17	"With the Camaro, GM has chosen to stick with the muscle car archetype rather than push the limits of what's possible, it's not likely to win many conquests from more adept sportscars like the 370Z, Audi TT and BMW 3-series as Chevy hopes it will." Source __________________ imagination + creativity = endless possibilities

03-23-2009, 04:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10325	But it only takes a couple of thousands to make the muscle car go faster where as the imports take at least double or triple to equal the muscle cars. That's one of the things I dont like about the imports. Takes to much just to get a few HP's. __________________ Mudders milk

03-18-2009, 04:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
MikeGTO Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 18 Drives: '04 Pontiac GTO Rep Power: 17	Also, 8:19 around the 'Ring aint bad. Assuming the report is true.

03-18-2009, 07:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	^ I believe it to be true, since they had reports and video of it doing 1 second slower in October.

03-18-2009, 08:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
enenen Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 30 Drives: 06 Nissan Frontier Rep Power: 17	is there a 370z ring time? i have looked and couldn't find anything.

03-18-2009, 09:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	^ Not yet apparently

03-19-2009, 01:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
DJcuetip Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA Posts: 704 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 260	looks like a beast

03-19-2009, 05:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 53	Ive long been a fan of Camaro's. I owned a 2000 and still own a 69 (for sale). I was definitely planning on getting the new Camaro when it came out, but it just gets harder and harder to make a choice. Get a LOT of power/performance in a used C6 Z51 for 30K? Get a brand new (very fast to depreciate) 370Z that isnt QUITE as good as a C6...but isnt bad either way? Or follow my roots and get a new Camaro just because it has a place in my heart? Heavier and wont handle nearly as well as a C6 Z51...but Im sure its still a fun car. Either way, I love the styling on it - in particular, black with the HID package and the darker wheels - that looks hot if you ask me . I'll try to get a screenshot of it...

03-19-2009, 07:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	Mustang fan here, so you already know what I'm going to say.

03-21-2009, 12:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	edmunds just tested the camaro 13.0 @ 110 in the 1/4 Predictably, one of the Camaro's obvious rivals, the big-'n-brawny Dodge Challenger R/T can't keep pace. It takes 5.5 seconds for the Mopar to reach 60 mph (5.3 with 1 foot of rollout) and 13.9 seconds to reach the quarter-mile, at which point it's steaming along at 103.2 mph. In fact, the Camaro SS is slightly quicker in both measures than the similarly powered Challenger SRT8. The 2010 Mustang makes up for much of its 111-hp power deficit with about a 500-pound weight advantage on the hefty Camaro. The Mustang with a Track Pack will do zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds (4.9 with rollout) and get through the quarter-mile in 13.5 seconds at 102.9 mph. The Camaro is quicker through the quarter by half-a-second than the Nissan 370Z, which Chevy also considers a Camaro competitor