370 getting spanked by sleeper
 

A sleeper Lincoln Mark VIII for that matter... WOW. Z guy put up good numbers but DAMN!

v8 vs v6... yawn.

All that smoke couldn't have been from his tires. I thought that thing was on fire at first. :) Either way, faaasst.

4.6L 290HP stock... Sleeper meaning would you expect to lose to this if it pulled up to you at a red light?

Damn. That Lincoln just jetted out of there. And I agree...something was smoldering, and it wasn't just his tires.

That would be a stellar time if that's a stock Z.

It doesn't sound like a sleeper.. even at idle..

And I dont street race. :tiphat:

It was tire smoke. That stuff lingers for a while.

:owned: but then again totally diff level.

i think i heard a superchager too

:iagree:
V8 + S/C vs v6 NA

The Z did an awesome job too, low 13's thats nice :driving:

What mods did that Z have? Anyone know who it was driving?

Street racing is bad mojo. :driving:
But for the track? That thing was pretty bad!! Z got :owned:

At 22 seconds, it sounds like someone was bouncing off the rev limiter.

"looks aren't everything" said the midwestern middle aged fat pig. :D

What's the point of these races if you don't have any standard as to what can race what? How is it a "race" if one car is supercharged and the other isn't?

For me, the only thing that interests me is stock vs. stock.

Well, FWIW, this was not a race. It's a test and tune. The two cars were not racing each other... just the clock!

That is basically a Terminator's heart put in front of a stalled auto. Very effective.

You don't need a supercharger to go fast. GM already proved that with the Corvette.

No biggie. Sleepers are out there. Track monsters are out there. What do I care if this sleeper can own a Z? There are 12-second minivans ffs!

89 turbo mini van!

Okay. But I guess my real point was that it's silly to make generalizations about the capability of a particular make of car based on what one sees "at the track" (unless, as I said, it's stock vs. stock).

If it's true that the Lincoln has 290hp base, then that would be an interesting race vs. a stock Z. With the Z's greater hp, I would expect the Z to win, but I guess it depends on torque and gear ratios more than hp (and, since the stock cars are actually close in perf, driver skill will come into play (imagine that!)).

The MKVIII in stock form wasn't that fast. 0-60 in the mid 7's.

It was me that was in the white Z, Yes the Ford was quick, But I also Spun tires on launch and spun tires on the shift from 2nd to 3rd on that run and still managed a mid 13 sec pass... That Lincoln had drag radials or slicks I cant remember also it was about 40 deg out I couldnt launch the car like I wanted to I rolled off the line

cant remember what time the lincoln bested that day But mine was a 12.9 not sure if he beat that :)


DAN

People always think racing at the track like this is car vs. car... it isn't.

My mods are in my Sig K&N Drop in Filters HPS post MAF tubes Berk Test Pipes HKS Exhaust.


This was also at Byron Dragway in Illinois on the 6th of Nov.

This was one of my later runs, had a total of 15 or so, and like previously stated my best time was 12.9 with street tires on a very cold track :)

DAN

I agree that it isn't really "car vs. car" if the two cars in question are pretty close in performance.

But when there's a large gap in performance between the two cars, driver skill becomes nearly irrelevant.

By about 2 seconds and probably 10-12mph.

What did it run in the Video,I couldnt make out the time?



DAN

Something along the lines of high 10's.. 10.9xx

10.96 @ 122.87.

Ha thanks, I was trying to watch it on my iPhone, Yes he should have beat me It was a full out Drag car there was a lot done to it. You cant really compair the two cars due to how highly modified the Lincoln was. Not really trying to make excuses about it, but for what stuff I have done to my car and running a 12.9 there really isnt anyone who should be dogging me about that especially with the track conditions that day.

DAN

I don't think anyone is dogging you at all. You ran well. If anything the OP should be dogged becuase you don't go to a test & tune to race, you go to run!

^^ True just trying to nip it in the bud :)


DAN

If you want to see the 12.9 slip for proof I have it posted in my Journal thead :)



DAN

Jesus guys, lay off the crack. I was in no way trying to dog anyone. I was actually giving props to the lincoln and One_Quick_Z. I mean come on guys, I'm a Z owner! Of course you wanted to defend the Z, yadda yadda yadda... I simply found a RECENT video that hasn't been posted 1,000 times (clear Z anyone?), and it was pretty impressive. It's amazing how debates start in just about every thread and of the simplest of topics. And then some people start expanding the BS and implying that I don't even understand drag racing when I haven't even said anything else?!?!?! I know what test and tune is. I know what bracket racing is; I've done it for over 10yrs. I grew up 5 miles from Englishtown Raceway Park in Old Bridge, NJ. I worked there as a kid. I've seen a 22 second Chevy Cavalier station wagon WIN bracket racing contests. And I've even won for my bracket once back in the mid-90's with my 300ZX. So I KNOW this video means nothing except the Z threw up respectable numbers and that Lincoln is badass (and OBVIOUSLY NOT STOCK). And for the guy who thinks a 290HP car vs a stock 370 would be a close race just because the closeness in HP, learn about power to weight ratio as well in addition to gearing and torque.

There's something I need to get off my chest here and I think this is the time to say it:

I feel a lot of people here are quick to jump to conclusions and attack people. I personally am hesitant to even post a lot of times because I just want to say something or ask a question and not get a wise-*** remark. And yes I know this is "the internet" and I certainly know how to take heat when it is due or in good humor. But people here are really a downer. I mean is it just me? Maybe I'm too old for this sh!t and I should relent back to lurker status and extract the useful info that is available here and remain a quiet member. When I owned the 300ZX the Z community was a lot different and there were a lot of cool people. Not much banter about a simple video posted up. I enjoy reading and learning about the 370Z here and researching mods... I think AK does a good job with this site and that is why I paid for membership but really the attitudes of some people here is pretty crappy.

Thanks and let the flames begin!

The economy is crappy. People are dicks when that happens. I remember how the forums were back a few years ago when the gas-crunch hit. I am just a **** when I'm hungry, though, lol. Economy doesn't effect me much currently.

That being said, post away. At least ONE person is likely to give you an answer worth having.

12.9 in your car at full-weight with 304whp is just fine. No dogging here. Just saying you didn't come CLOSE to that modded speed-yaught, lol.

hahaha economy not affecting me either and my belly is full. I think this thread is a prime example of what I'm talking about...A simple video post...

That "guy" would be me. Thanks for the education.

And so nicely done, in a post where your main point is about people being rude on the Internet!

On a related note, seriously, what is up with airplane travel? I mean, come on, they stick you in those tiny, uncomfortable seats, strap you in and tell you you can't go anywhere and serve you what is, possibly, your last meal! Am I flying to LA or dying at San Quentin?! :stirthepot:

I have to agree with you there. I've seen it too. Been on the receiving end, and I have given it also. But yeah, you would be correct.

Love how this thread is still going :)

Thanks for the props on the run, I was just making sure people knew that the lincoln had hella amount of mods done and was nowhere close to being stock :)


DAN

Did he have a roll bar or was that his last pass before getting kicked out?