370 getting spanked by sleeper

m4a1mustang · 11-08-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

What's the point of these races if you don't have any standard as to what can race what? How is it a "race" if one car is supercharged and the other isn't?

For me, the only thing that interests me is stock vs. stock.

Well, FWIW, this was not a race. It's a test and tune. The two cars were not racing each other... just the clock!

ImportConvert · 11-08-2010, 12:31 PM

That is basically a Terminator's heart put in front of a stalled auto. Very effective.

You don't need a supercharger to go fast. GM already proved that with the Corvette.

shadoquad · 11-08-2010, 12:35 PM

No biggie. Sleepers are out there. Track monsters are out there. What do I care if this sleeper can own a Z? There are 12-second minivans ffs!

89 turbo mini van!

jakoye · 11-08-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Well, FWIW, this was not a race. It's a test and tune. The two cars were not racing each other... just the clock!

Okay. But I guess my real point was that it's silly to make generalizations about the capability of a particular make of car based on what one sees "at the track" (unless, as I said, it's stock vs. stock).

If it's true that the Lincoln has 290hp base, then that would be an interesting race vs. a stock Z. With the Z's greater hp, I would expect the Z to win, but I guess it depends on torque and gear ratios more than hp (and, since the stock cars are actually close in perf, driver skill will come into play (imagine that!)).

ImportConvert · 11-08-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

Okay. But I guess my real point was that it's silly to make generalizations about the capability of a particular make of car based on what one sees "at the track" (unless, as I said, it's stock vs. stock).

If it's true that the Lincoln has 290hp base, then that would be an interesting race vs. a stock Z. With the Z's greater hp, I would expect the Z to win, but I guess it depends on torque and gear ratios more than hp (and, since the stock cars are actually close in perf, driver skill will come into play (imagine that!)).

The MKVIII in stock form wasn't that fast. 0-60 in the mid 7's.

One_Quick_Z · 11-08-2010, 12:48 PM

It was me that was in the white Z, Yes the Ford was quick, But I also Spun tires on launch and spun tires on the shift from 2nd to 3rd on that run and still managed a mid 13 sec pass... That Lincoln had drag radials or slicks I cant remember also it was about 40 deg out I couldnt launch the car like I wanted to I rolled off the line

cant remember what time the lincoln bested that day But mine was a 12.9 not sure if he beat that

DAN

efuseakay · 11-08-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jakoye

What's the point of these races if you don't have any standard as to what can race what? How is it a "race" if one car is supercharged and the other isn't?

For me, the only thing that interests me is stock vs. stock.

People always think racing at the track like this is car vs. car... it isn't.

One_Quick_Z · 11-08-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

What mods did that Z have? Anyone know who it was driving?

My mods are in my Sig K&N Drop in Filters HPS post MAF tubes Berk Test Pipes HKS Exhaust.

This was also at Byron Dragway in Illinois on the 6th of Nov.

This was one of my later runs, had a total of 15 or so, and like previously stated my best time was 12.9 with street tires on a very cold track

DAN

jakoye · 11-08-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay

People always think racing at the track like this is car vs. car... it isn't.

I agree that it isn't really "car vs. car" if the two cars in question are pretty close in performance.

But when there's a large gap in performance between the two cars, driver skill becomes nearly irrelevant.

ImportConvert · 11-08-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z

It was me that was in the white Z, Yes the Ford was quick, But I also Spun tires on launch and spun tires on the shift from 2nd to 3rd on that run and still managed a mid 13 sec pass... That Lincoln had drag radials or slicks I cant remember also it was about 40 deg out I couldnt launch the car like I wanted to I rolled off the line

cant remember what time the lincoln bested that day But mine was a 12.9 not sure if he beat that

DAN

By about 2 seconds and probably 10-12mph.

One_Quick_Z · 11-08-2010, 01:30 PM

What did it run in the Video,I couldnt make out the time?

DAN

ninous26 · 11-08-2010, 01:32 PM

Something along the lines of high 10's.. 10.9xx

m4a1mustang · 11-08-2010, 01:32 PM

10.96 @ 122.87.

One_Quick_Z · 11-08-2010, 01:38 PM

Ha thanks, I was trying to watch it on my iPhone, Yes he should have beat me It was a full out Drag car there was a lot done to it. You cant really compair the two cars due to how highly modified the Lincoln was. Not really trying to make excuses about it, but for what stuff I have done to my car and running a 12.9 there really isnt anyone who should be dogging me about that especially with the track conditions that day.

DAN

m4a1mustang · 11-08-2010, 01:40 PM

I don't think anyone is dogging you at all. You ran well. If anything the OP should be dogged becuase you don't go to a test & tune to race, you go to run!

11-08-2010, 12:48 PM	#21 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 219	It was me that was in the white Z, Yes the Ford was quick, But I also Spun tires on launch and spun tires on the shift from 2nd to 3rd on that run and still managed a mid 13 sec pass... That Lincoln had drag radials or slicks I cant remember also it was about 40 deg out I couldnt launch the car like I wanted to I rolled off the line cant remember what time the lincoln bested that day But mine was a 12.9 not sure if he beat that DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

11-08-2010, 01:30 PM	#26 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 219	What did it run in the Video,I couldnt make out the time? DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

11-08-2010, 01:32 PM	#28 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	10.96 @ 122.87. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-08-2010, 01:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 219	Ha thanks, I was trying to watch it on my iPhone, Yes he should have beat me It was a full out Drag car there was a lot done to it. You cant really compair the two cars due to how highly modified the Lincoln was. Not really trying to make excuses about it, but for what stuff I have done to my car and running a 12.9 there really isnt anyone who should be dogging me about that especially with the track conditions that day. DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

11-08-2010, 01:40 PM	#30 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I don't think anyone is dogging you at all. You ran well. If anything the OP should be dogged becuase you don't go to a test & tune to race, you go to run! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-08-2010, 12:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	That is basically a Terminator's heart put in front of a stalled auto. Very effective. You don't need a supercharger to go fast. GM already proved that with the Corvette.

11-08-2010, 12:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	No biggie. Sleepers are out there. Track monsters are out there. What do I care if this sleeper can own a Z? There are 12-second minivans ffs! 89 turbo mini van!

11-08-2010, 01:32 PM	#27 (permalink)
ninous26 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 112 Drives: 03 G35 black 5AT Rep Power: 16	Something along the lines of high 10's.. 10.9xx

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