out on a limb here about new model

ImportConvert · 11-06-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

With goverment regulations and everything about gas mileage coming soon.

and if ford can put a v6 turbo bost in its new f150 trucks and from what i've read it's a kick xss engine that can compete with big v8's.. maybe thats the way nissan will go with the new Z. makes more sense than trying to cram
a v8 and extra weight into the car......just saying...

A turbo setup and the intercooler/extra piping in addition to the V6 would weigh more than a V8 would. What does the current VQ engine weigh? The current 505bhp LS7 weighs in at around 450# from oil-pan to valve-covers. I highly doubt the V6 would be lighter considering that the TT V6 in the GT-R weighs in at roughly 150# more than the LS7.

Nope. A V8 is the way to go unless they are chasing emissions/economy, in which case, I still think a V8 is the way to go.

ImportConvert · 11-06-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by atx370z

Theres no way a tt v6 weighs more than a v8. all your adding is turbos, charge piping and an intercooler along with misc. fittings etc. Can't count the weight of the manifolds, because they are there whether its n/a or not.

Look at the LS7 and the GT-R's engine/setup. The GTR's powerplant is WAY! heavier than the LS7...and still makes less power.

GT-R Engine: 608#
http://www.2009gtr.com/2008/02/vr38d...ne-weight.html

LS7: 458#
http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/che...7247876&page=1

Oh, yeah, TR6060 weight: 121#
http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.p...Specification=

Ls7+TR6060 Transmission= 579#

Lol, the engine AND transmission weigh almost 50# LESS! than just the turbo V6 in the GT-R with it's piping and turbo's...and it makes more power.

Yes...a V8 is the way to go. Once you get over your warm and fuzzies about all that technology and all those moving parts, an "old school" pushrod V8 is lighter and more powerful and just plain makes more sense.

370Zsteve · 11-06-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cmancha003

could switching back to an inline 6 help anything? I know its still a 6 but it does seem like inline 6's have a power advantage over the v-6. I just dont want them to go to a 2.0T like everyone else.

And imagine how smooth it would be compared to the current V6 which is near the end of it's life-cycle anyway and is waaaay too harsh.

sonic370 · 11-06-2010, 09:20 AM

i still think in the next 2 or 3 years nissian gotta change the vq engine.
i think it's time has come everyone knows what it sounds like at high rpms.

it's still a damn good power plant but imo it's reached it's limit...

like it or not the 5.0 and the v8 of the camaro for now is a better power plant. imo between the three of them most of the time but not all of the time
sports car buyers are swayed by looks,handling and power...

and face it the stang and the camaro might as well not even have a back seat. have you every tried to get into the back of one of these cars...

point is the Z does compete for buyers with these other cars.... not counting 17-21 year olds.

Lemers · 11-06-2010, 10:30 AM

The vq may be near the end however DI can still give it a few years while nissan builds a new V6 from the ground up to get higher MPGs and more power.

Cell · 11-06-2010, 11:45 AM

Next Generation Z?

About the same type of thread.

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	The vq may be near the end however DI can still give it a few years while nissan builds a new V6 from the ground up to get higher MPGs and more power. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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Cell A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,449 Drives: A Garbage Truck Rep Power: 21	Next Generation Z? About the same type of thread. Last edited by Cell; 11-06-2010 at 11:50 AM.

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sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	i still think in the next 2 or 3 years nissian gotta change the vq engine. i think it's time has come everyone knows what it sounds like at high rpms. it's still a damn good power plant but imo it's reached it's limit... like it or not the 5.0 and the v8 of the camaro for now is a better power plant. imo between the three of them most of the time but not all of the time sports car buyers are swayed by looks,handling and power... and face it the stang and the camaro might as well not even have a back seat. have you every tried to get into the back of one of these cars... point is the Z does compete for buyers with these other cars.... not counting 17-21 year olds.