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MBLAQ 11-03-2010 08:41 PM

Possible to start engine without depressing on clutch??
 
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shadoquad 11-03-2010 08:51 PM

Well, if you buy the Automatic Transmission, no. lol

More seriously, I don't think that it is possible stock. But people have bought after market remote starters for their manual transmission Z's, some with disastrous results (remember, don't leave the car in gear if you do this mod).

Hope that helps.

Trips 11-03-2010 08:56 PM

Yes, bypass the safety feature!
Not recommended!

MBLAQ 11-03-2010 08:57 PM

yeah i know about the auto engine start from remotes. its illegal in my state.

but i get lazy to have to sit in the car then get out if i jsut want to warm up my car :/
just wondering if theres any fuse or wiring that can be done to eliminate the clutch use.

TongMan 11-03-2010 08:58 PM

The clutch can be bypassed. My civic's clutch is bypassed and I don't need to engage the clutch to turn on the ignition.

Cjanik 11-03-2010 09:46 PM

the nice thing about the Z is that the gauge shows what gear its in. with that said, find out which wire gets triggered when the "N" shows up on the display, and use that to flip a relay which will allow the remote start to activate. if there's no N then there's no remote start.

6spd 11-03-2010 09:53 PM

just duck tape the clutch safety switch down.

shadoquad 11-04-2010 10:49 AM

I've dealt with starting manual cars just for the purpose of warming them up, or for starting them while the hood's open. I simply sit on the seat with my right buttock and use the right foot to depress the clutch, wiggle the stick to make sure she's out of gear, and then swing right back out of the car. It's not hard to do.

ChrisSlicks 11-04-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 795359)
I've dealt with starting manual cars just for the purpose of warming them up, or for starting them while the hood's open. I simply sit on the seat with my right buttock and use the right foot to depress the clutch, wiggle the stick to make sure she's out of gear, and then swing right back out of the car. It's not hard to do.

That's the best way.

You don't want to bypass the clutch sensor especially if you have SRM. If you are doing it because of a remote starter then you can usually set it up to send a temporary signal which you would achieve by shunting pin 99 of the BCM to ground. Figuring out how to detect neutral (if you have SRM) would also be a really good idea to prevent you sending the Z through the garage door.

JB-370z 11-04-2010 12:32 PM

The saftey wire would need to be grounded to something and then your done.

ClemsonWill 11-04-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 795359)
I've dealt with starting manual cars just for the purpose of warming them up, or for starting them while the hood's open. I simply sit on the seat with my right buttock and use the right foot to depress the clutch, wiggle the stick to make sure she's out of gear, and then swing right back out of the car. It's not hard to do.


This is what I do as well. Specifically comes in handy when you are changing oil and all dirty. I can't imagine trying to get oil out of my almost white seats.

zcar_dad 11-04-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBLAQ (Post 794827)
yeah i know about the auto engine start from remotes. its illegal in my state.

but i get lazy to have to sit in the car then get out if i jsut want to warm up my car :/
just wondering if theres any fuse or wiring that can be done to eliminate the clutch use.

In my state it is illegal to have your car running (warming up) without you in it due to car jacking. Of course if you lock the door it won't open if your key is far enough away. around here they just break your window and drive away.

TX_370 11-04-2010 01:47 PM

I am not sure about doing it with a push start vehicle, but if I had my old car in first gear, turn the key, and hit the gas it would start up. Obviously, this is not good for the car but it did work.

RedBullRR 11-04-2010 02:05 PM

It's like that for a reason. Saftey! If you want an autostart they sell legitimate alarm systems that are costly but will give you autostart in a safe manner. Had a Compustar alarm system on my car about 700 bucks with autostart. You had a process before shutting the car off, but it was something you do anyway. Very cool so you didnt start the car in gear. If you opened and closed the door it will disengage the autostart. Again expensive but I enjoyed it.

ykz 11-07-2010 11:15 PM

just did this on my car. Installing relay provisions for my remote start i ordered. I used two relays as there are actually two switches on the clutch pedal.

Relay#1 - to open the circuit for clutch pedal position switch coming out of pin 99 at the BCM (a 12V input is normally found on this pin at rest which must be interupted to allow a start)

Relay#2 - to apply 12v to the clutch interlock switch circuit at pin 114 of the BCM. (this pin has 0Volts at rest and requires 12v to allow a start)

Following that just apply a ground pulse to the start button circuit at pin 89 on the BCM and voila, your car starts with no clutch, no push button.

I will be using a proximity key bypass module that powers up the key fob only for the start of the car then powers it off once started. That way the key fob is dead after the car is started and you cannot walkup to the car and unlock the doors with the door unlock request button.


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