What oil.?

semtex · 03-18-2009, 05:43 PM

Might want to check out this thread:
Favorite Synthetic Oil

joeyz10 · 03-19-2009, 12:02 AM

I think you guys should not changed the oil before the recommended miles because I have read somewhere that the oil the factory used for the first time is different and is used and designed for break in period. You have to understand Nissan Engineers just did not make this cars without the exact research, computation, analysis and etc.....They went to school for this.....Just folow what they suggest...

Chan Chee Hoe · 03-19-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

pdf pg 315 in the owners manual states;

*3: NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.

is it listed as required somewhere else?

This oil is not available here..

semtex · 03-19-2009, 07:21 PM

Not even at the Nissan dealership???

zsport1 · 03-19-2009, 08:05 PM

drisko · 03-19-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Weapon

1 of the techs at the dealership said he went on a training course for the Z, told me that the Nissan Ester Oil they use is Fully Synthetic. I don't know if it "REALLY" is or not but he said they only use it on the 37OZ, G37 and GTR.

Anyhow it seems like a few people have had problems with ticking and engine noise when it's not used. There's a thread dated from 9/08 on my37 that talks about the oil as well.

I think the tech is wrong on this matter. I've heard the ester oil is a conventional oil with ester additives...and the GTR uses Mobil 1 (see Mobil 1 Selected as Factory and Service Fill Motor Oil for New Nissan GT-R Multi-Performance Supercar).

In any case, the PREMISE behind the ester oil is that it electrochemically bonds to the metal inside your engine, which makes it superior to conventional oil in terms of its ability to provide lubrication. Apparently, this is a very important property for the VVEL system, where the tolerances are tight and the oil experiences a lot of shearing forces that a normal conventional oil could not withstand that well. However, full synthetics like Mobil 1 already have been proven to work very well under extreme conditions, like very low/high temperatures, and high shearing forces. Full synthetics also flow faster/better than conventional oil and reduce friction inside the engine.

I did a lot of research on this and even called Mobil 1 and Nissan Corporate to confirm that Mobil 1 should be fine to use. I'm going to try it because I think it has benefits over the Nissan Ester Oil. I will be very suprised if I get any sort of VVEL "ticking" sound.

Besides, in our 370Zs I think we have the updated ECM software that takes care of the VVEL ticking noise.

^After doing some more research on esters, it seems like there may be some real needed benefits that the Nissan Ester Oil brings to the VVEL system (esp. in the long term). And what's more, since we don't know exactly what esters are in the oil, you can't just go out and buy a Group V synthetic ester oil and hope it does the same thing. So, until I find out EXACTLY what is in the oil I am probably just going to stick to using the Nissan Ester Oil instead of Mobil 1, or any other synthetic for that matter.

SoCal 370Z · 03-20-2009, 12:10 AM

Great find!

+rep points

Chan Chee Hoe · 03-20-2009, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

Not even at the Nissan dealership???

Our dealer/service centre uses 'Shotgun' brand from Japan.

pehon · 08-17-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe

Our dealer/service centre uses 'Shotgun' brand from Japan.

Chee hoe,

In the end, what oil did you use? I am collecting my preloved 370z next week and wanna know what grade of oil to use since i don't intend to go back to nissan.

DJ-of-E · 08-17-2011, 01:30 PM

You know there's something called "private message." NO need for thread necromancy.

tjlazer · 08-17-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

You know there's something called "private message." NO need for thread necromancy.

Well the rest of us might be interested in what the OP did! Whats wrong with that? We also like zombie movies too...

11Thumper · 08-17-2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer

Well the rest of us might be interested in what the OP did! Whats wrong with that? We also like zombie movies too...

I prefer sunset walks on the beach...

Rooster89 · 08-17-2011, 06:33 PM

But at least we know oil is a topic that will never fully die. I like royal purple. and I change it every 4.5k.

03-18-2009, 05:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Might want to check out this thread: Favorite Synthetic Oil __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 16	I think you guys should not changed the oil before the recommended miles because I have read somewhere that the oil the factory used for the first time is different and is used and designed for break in period. You have to understand Nissan Engineers just did not make this cars without the exact research, computation, analysis and etc.....They went to school for this.....Just folow what they suggest... Last edited by joeyz10; 03-19-2009 at 10:53 AM.

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semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Not even at the Nissan dealership??? __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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