Is ethanol free that much of a difference...

dang370z · 10-28-2010, 11:18 PM

So I was just curious does ethanol free gas make a difference on your car. Is it also worth the extra 10 cent from name brand gas (shell, chevron, etc.) that has ethanol in it.

cab83_750 · 10-29-2010, 01:27 AM

I go for Chevron bcoz of the Techron. That stuff works.

370fan · 10-29-2010, 09:48 AM

It's worth it to me. I get roughly 2-3 more MPG with ethanol free gas than the 10%E junk. At $2.85 for 93, it works out that I save money by using ethanol free.

I haven't ever noticed a power difference though, only MPG.

ImportConvert · 10-29-2010, 10:09 AM

Ethanol hurts mileage.
E85, if your car is converted to run it, burns VERY clean and allows for a lot more compression.

A converted E85 car will make around 15-20% more power than it's counterpart (provided you take advantage of the extra compression on the table) and get 2-3mpg less (depending on gear ratios, etc.). This is just an observation of mine looking at the Z06 guys who have converted to run it.

Jeffblue · 10-29-2010, 10:20 AM

what brands don't have 10% ethanol?

IS2000 · 10-29-2010, 11:19 AM

From where I live, we can choose ethanol free gas (which cost about 20% more than E10 due to local tax). The gas mileage is noticeably better when filling up with ethanol free gas.

TreeSemdyZee · 10-29-2010, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue

what brands don't have 10% ethanol?

+1
I worked at gas stations 20-25 years ago and there was 10% in the gas at that time.

flashburn · 10-29-2010, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue

what brands don't have 10% ethanol?

+1 as well.

Maybe its a State thing, but I have never noticed any places advertising that they had ethanol free gas. If they did exist, I'd love to know about it.

Jeffblue · 10-29-2010, 12:08 PM

this is coo:
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

TreeSemdyZee · 10-29-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue

this is coo:
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

Thanks for that. I'm gonna give it a shot.

Jeffblue · 10-29-2010, 12:42 PM

no hope for us in long island new york, not a single station.

6spd · 10-29-2010, 12:43 PM

If you can buy ethanol free, do it. Ethanol reeks havoc on rubber in the fuel system and from my experience as a mechanic since it came out, causes way more harm than good. All the political non-sense aside, ethanol free > e85 or 10%.

TreeSemdyZee · 10-29-2010, 12:51 PM

Crap. I just checked the two stations listed on that site and there were notes on both that the gas tested with alcohol in it. I thinks there's a whole lot of lying going on at stations that say they have pure gas.

6spd · 10-29-2010, 12:53 PM

I could have swore there was a new law that said all station have to have 10% ethanol fuel, but Im not be 100% sure.

FERRARI · 11-09-2010, 03:58 PM

I guess I am lucky....I have at least 5 places within 15 miles that sell 100% gas

10-28-2010, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
dang370z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NoLA Posts: 242 Drives: 2013 MBlack Rep Power: 16	Is ethanol free that much of a difference... So I was just curious does ethanol free gas make a difference on your car. Is it also worth the extra 10 cent from name brand gas (shell, chevron, etc.) that has ethanol in it.

10-29-2010, 11:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
IS2000 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 41 Drives: 09 370Z version ST. Rep Power: 15	From where I live, we can choose ethanol free gas (which cost about 20% more than E10 due to local tax). The gas mileage is noticeably better when filling up with ethanol free gas. __________________ 09' JDM 370Z Version ST. 08' Mini Cooper S 03' USDM EVO8

10-29-2010, 12:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	If you can buy ethanol free, do it. Ethanol reeks havoc on rubber in the fuel system and from my experience as a mechanic since it came out, causes way more harm than good. All the political non-sense aside, ethanol free > e85 or 10%. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-29-2010, 12:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	I could have swore there was a new law that said all station have to have 10% ethanol fuel, but Im not be 100% sure. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

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ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Ethanol hurts mileage. E85, if your car is converted to run it, burns VERY clean and allows for a lot more compression. A converted E85 car will make around 15-20% more power than it's counterpart (provided you take advantage of the extra compression on the table) and get 2-3mpg less (depending on gear ratios, etc.). This is just an observation of mine looking at the Z06 guys who have converted to run it.

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	what brands don't have 10% ethanol?

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	this is coo: Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	no hope for us in long island new york, not a single station.

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TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	Crap. I just checked the two stations listed on that site and there were notes on both that the gas tested with alcohol in it. I thinks there's a whole lot of lying going on at stations that say they have pure gas.

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FERRARI Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Posts: 324 Drives: PERFECTION Rep Power: 492	I guess I am lucky....I have at least 5 places within 15 miles that sell 100% gas