Is sport package a must?

Dwight Frye · 11-02-2010, 06:59 PM

Let's talk resale value: A 370Z without Touring & Sport packages says that the original owner could barely afford it. Maybe leased it or had his daddy co-sign for it. Maybe drove the sh*t out of it, or modded it and drove the sh*t out of it and then took the mods off before offering for sale. I wouldn't touch a car like that, whether or not the perceptions are accurate. It willend up being sold to the next guy who can barely afford it. There are some great deals out there right now, scrimp on your Starbucks bill or the amount you pay each month to send text messages and make the higher payment.
You are welcome.

Smallywood · 11-02-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Let's talk resale value: A 370Z without Touring & Sport packages says that the original owner could barely afford it. Maybe leased it or had his daddy co-sign for it. Maybe drove the sh*t out of it, or modded it and drove the sh*t out of it and then took the mods off before offering for sale. I wouldn't touch a car like that, whether or not the perceptions are accurate. It willend up being sold to the next guy who can barely afford it. There are some great deals out there right now, scrimp on your Starbucks bill or the amount you pay each month to send text messages and make the higher payment.
You are welcome.

You say what I am thinking when I'm selling cars to people! Love It!

Red__Zed · 11-02-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Let's talk resale value: A 370Z without Touring & Sport packages says that the original owner could barely afford it. Maybe leased it or had his daddy co-sign for it. Maybe drove the sh*t out of it, or modded it and drove the sh*t out of it and then took the mods off before offering for sale. I wouldn't touch a car like that, whether or not the perceptions are accurate. It willend up being sold to the next guy who can barely afford it. There are some great deals out there right now, scrimp on your Starbucks bill or the amount you pay each month to send text messages and make the higher payment.
You are welcome.

I find that fairly frequently, the stripped down, practical models go to those who CAN afford it, and simply don't see the benefit of wasting money on factory add-ons. If I so choose, I can throw on sport package rims for $900, sell my base rims for $600, and swap to an LSD for another $400. The brakes can be bought new for like $1300, less used. Even the base brakes are worth something to someone with a 240, etc.

Also, I'd just offer up the thought that a non-sports package car probably get's driven less hard on average...

ninous26 · 11-03-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I find that fairly frequently, the stripped down, practical models go to those who CAN afford it, and simply don't see the benefit of wasting money on factory add-ons. If I so choose, I can throw on sport package rims for $900, sell my base rims for $600, and swap to an LSD for another $400. The brakes can be bought new for like $1300, less used. Even the base brakes are worth something to someone with a 240, etc.

Also, I'd just offer up the thought that a non-sports package car probably get's driven less hard on average...

No offense, I don't even know you but that sounds SO retardly ghetto and cheap.

Cmike2780 · 11-03-2010, 01:52 PM

This thread is going downhill. AK should probably close this.

c41006 · 11-02-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Let's talk resale value: A 370Z without Touring & Sport packages says that the original owner could barely afford it. Maybe leased it or had his daddy co-sign for it. Maybe drove the sh*t out of it, or modded it and drove the sh*t out of it and then took the mods off before offering for sale. I wouldn't touch a car like that, whether or not the perceptions are accurate. It willend up being sold to the next guy who can barely afford it. There are some great deals out there right now, scrimp on your Starbucks bill or the amount you pay each month to send text messages and make the higher payment.
You are welcome.

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ninous26 · 11-03-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Let's talk resale value: A 370Z without Touring & Sport packages says that the original owner could barely afford it. Maybe leased it or had his daddy co-sign for it. Maybe drove the sh*t out of it, or modded it and drove the sh*t out of it and then took the mods off before offering for sale. I wouldn't touch a car like that, whether or not the perceptions are accurate. It willend up being sold to the next guy who can barely afford it. There are some great deals out there right now, scrimp on your Starbucks bill or the amount you pay each month to send text messages and make the higher payment.
You are welcome.

You can't be more right about this post. The whole paycheck to paycheck~30k millionaire comes to mind.

Red__Zed · 11-03-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Did some searching:

Nismo:
245/40YR19 (front) and 285/35YR19 (rear) Yokohama® ADVAN Sport® high-performance tires

Sports Package:
245/40WR19 (front) and 275/35WR19 (rear) Bridgestone® Potenza® high-performance tires

Base:
225/50WR18 (front) and 245/45WR18 (rear) Yokohama® ADVAN Sport® high-performance tires

Nissan's logic doesn't seem to correspond that the Yoko Advan's are the better tire. Otherwise, why would they put them on the model more likely to see a track.

My next set will likely be RE11's.

How do you figure that? Stock tire choice is largely based on profit margin and advertising agreements. The RE11's would come on stock Z's if it was about performance-- they cost barely more than the RE050a's, which are an awful tire, especially for the price. The pole positions are maybe comparable to the Advans, but not the a's

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Originally Posted by ninous26

No offense, I don't even know you but that sounds SO retardly ghetto and cheap.

1-- not saying I would do it. I think all the sport package parts are too much of a compromise, and simply not worth it. If I'm hitting a point where the base brakes don't cut it, the Akebono's probably won't cut it either. I don't spend much time shedding tons of speed with the Z. Rims are OK. I've got some sport rims for sale if anyone wants them, lol. VLSD sucks for any situation you need an LSD.

2-- Since when is modding your car ghetto and cheap? If I can put together something better than the factory can cheaper, you bet I'm going to. Not because I can't afford it, because I can. I continue to be able to pay cash for all my vehicles because I refuse to allow myself to be ripped off by a dealer.

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Originally Posted by ninous26

You can't be more right about this post. The whole paycheck to paycheck~30k millionaire comes to mind.

Cmike2780 · 11-03-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

How do you figure that? Stock tire choice is largely based on profit margin and advertising agreements. The RE11's would come on stock Z's if it was about performance-- they cost barely more than the RE050a's, which are an awful tire, especially for the price. The pole positions are maybe comparable to the Advans, but not the a's

Sorry, I was agreeing with you. Not easy to convey tone in text. Someone mentioned that the tires were an upgrade earlier.

Red__Zed · 11-03-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Sorry, I was agreeing with you. Not easy to convey tone in text. Someone mentioned that the tires were an upgrade earlier.

Roger. I wasn't sure which point you were trying to make.

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Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 16	Let's talk resale value: A 370Z without Touring & Sport packages says that the original owner could barely afford it. Maybe leased it or had his daddy co-sign for it. Maybe drove the sht out of it, or modded it and drove the sht out of it and then took the mods off before offering for sale. I wouldn't touch a car like that, whether or not the perceptions are accurate. It willend up being sold to the next guy who can barely afford it. There are some great deals out there right now, scrimp on your Starbucks bill or the amount you pay each month to send text messages and make the higher payment. You are welcome.