Cabin noise

Bonzo

This thread is so friggin' long it's hard to remember who is saying what. As it turns out, it was YOU who mentioned Frost King, way back in February. So it was me who's mistaken. However, I think where it got me is that you've posted the same info many times over, and each time it sort of sounds like your mentioning it for the first time. Almost like you are trying to sell it or something. It also made it sort of appear like multiple people were posting it up, when in reality it was just you posting again. So my bad. But anyway, it appears you and Evil Sports are the 2 who have tried it and I guess we'll see about how it holds up. I really REALLY hope you are right and it's a different product than what scottIN mentioned, because that would suck.

High temp heat ducts? Just wondering what you are referring to? Certainly in-home ducting can not be considered high temp? I mean the inside of cars can get really hot, much hotter than the air a furnace blows through the ducts.

I sincerely hope you guys are right, and it would certainly go to show that the specialized material companies are just making more profit for a name.

I for one was just not willing to take that chance.

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rebe945

Yea, it was me mentioning it. Simply to inform of progress. I'll be monitoring during the hot weather and post back. Ever try touching your ductwork at the furnace area during the on cycle. Its hot.

Bonzo

That will be great for folks getting cars this fall. Could same them some coin for sure.

Can't say I make a habit of it no, but I have a heat pump system with the unit outside and an air handler inside. It does not get what I would call hot. Not nearly like a sun baked car

Companies doing this sort of thing doesn't surprise me at all; making a product, and selling it under different brands for different prices. I wouldn't be surprised if Dynamat (and the like) is made by the same people as Frost King, and is very similar if not exactly the same material. For example, back in the 90's I did a bunch of work with Schering Plough, who make Coppertone. The plain white 45 SPF bottle would cost $4.00, while the same sized bottle of 45 SPF Waterbabies would cost $7.00 (just using rough figures of course). Guess what was different about the lotion.....NOTHING, they were the same sun tan lotion, exactly the same. Only the bottle itself was different. They literally went down the same filling station line. According to my nephew there are actually only 3 or 4 makers of clear bra material, but if you shop around there are lots and lots of brands. For example, 3M actually makes a lot of them, but just changes the printing on the back liner to accommodate different names. They are actually all the same. My old boss used to do a lot of work with a pasta making company. According to him, every box of U.S. made dried pasta (like spaghetti etc) comes from the same company. There were SLIGHT differences in the pasta, but for all the 100 brands out there across the country, there were only like 5 pasta ingredient versions. I don't have exact figures on all this, so please no one jump on this with great detail. I'm just making a point that manufacturers do this all the time.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for you that Frost King is not the same stuff scottIN's friend used.

Cheers ---- Bonzo

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rebe945

Ill keep a close watch

Bonzo

Make sure you pull all those back trim panels out daily!!!

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scottIN

Since it seems I started the whole vehicle / home thing using my buddy Steve an the example I'll chime in...

I have 100% no idea how Frost King performs. I don't know what brand he used in his car, just know that it was from a home improvement store & he did it because it was cheaper. I do know that whatever it was completely F'd his car.

I hope it works well for those who have used it. I wouldn't wish the mess he had on anyone.

Can we now return to our regularly scheduled program of what works and what doesn't?

I'd like to hear more about undercoating the wheel wells and any particular brands / methods that work well. The pebble noise - especially at low speed- is my only real complaint.

Bonzo

100%.

The place I got my mat from is called FatMat. They have a paint product that goes on blue and drys black, so you can see where you put it. You can brush and even roller it on (which I think would work great like painting walls in a house). Taint cheap though, at least not for paint. I think it was like $80 for a gallon. But I'm thinking with that gallon you might be able to get at least 2 if not 3 coats in each rear wheel well. I'm thinking that's the ultimate fix for our pebble rock noise issue. Although I must say the FatMat did at least turn the plinking into thunking, so it is better.

Here's a link to FatMat's stuff called Liquid Body Armor. I'm going to do more searching, but this is a start.
http://www.fatmat.com/liquid/gallon.html

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Mecinoid

+1.

This thread was started so that those of us that want to quiet their car's cabin down can share our ideas on how to accomplish this. I've done a few things and the car is now livable. It's not as quiet as my Corvette and is about as loud as my Pontiac. All vehicles have mellow performance exhaust in them however, until my FatMat installation the Z was not a great car to go on long trips with my wife. We ended up yelling at each other over the road noise. Now, we are not screaming at each other and can talk at a slighly elevated level but, the car could still use some improvements. Right now, the Z is acceptable and our trips out of town are nice .... we plan on taking this to the next level and making the car one that we don't have to reaise our voices in. That is our ultimate goal. I do not think that is too much to ask for out of a $35-40K sports touring car. Yes, we could have bought a G for a few thousand more however, it just doesn't make our hearts race like the Z car does.

delusional

I just recently put on my Hankook V12 tires and I must say that they lowered the road noise by a good amount. Compared to the stock tires, these are much quieter and much more comfortable.

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Mecinoid

I tried those tires and I will agree. I had the oportunity to step up into Michelin Pilot Super Sports after the Hankooks and they were just as quiet and gave me a little better transistion feel in the mountains. Not that they stuck any better than the V12 just a tad better response. For the price, it might not we worth it for everyone. For me cost was not a problem at the time. The MPSS are about $500-600 more per set than the Hankooks. That a lot of dough for what you get.... But, IMHO the Michelin are a tad better. However, you might have a ever so slight better ride in a straight line the the Hankooks. I barely could percieve a difference there but, I think the Hankooks are better there as well.

Good choice !!!!

Mecinoid

It dulled it somewhat... Almost to a point you can't hear it. But, you still can. I plan on putting some FatMat behind the plastic liner as another member stated... just waiting for FatMat to show up. It's worth the $20 of Fat Mat to try. Plus there was a couple pieced together areas in the hatch I want to rework so the extra material will allow me to do that. $60 total is a cheap way to minimize / deaden the noise in my opinion. Plus, the stereo does sound better after this treatment.

rebe945

Glad to hear your opinion. My dealer just got my order in yesterday, Wednesday. Mine are 255/295 .SAM_0920.JPG

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Frost King

The question of whether or not to put Frost King reminds me of a mafia movie..Someone help me with the name I think it was Cassino..anyway the FBI has rounded up a bunch of mafia dons and they are now trying to cover their trails..they have a meeting and are deciding who might talk and so who to whack and who not to whack..

They come up with a bunch of names and agree to whack them..then one name comes up..one don says, "He is a stand up guy no problems with him" The next agrees and says, "Ya he's always been a good soldier" but the third says, "Ya well he I agree he's always been a good man..but the way I figure it..why take a chance?!!"

Next thing you know he's whacked..(What was that movie?)

Same with frost king.....why take a chance?

rebe945

ill keep a close watch. first sign of trouble its out. But im guessing that aint the case.

rebe945

I was baking in the oven some rolls at 370 Degrees. So I decided to test a piece of Frost King. I turned the oven off after placing a strip on a metal cooking pan. Left it in there for 30 minutes. No smell. Easily removed as if it was 60 degrees. No gue. nothing. The shiny aluminized side had stayed about normal to the touch. The underside was normal . Took it outside for a smell test. It was fine. In appearance and everything. I dont believe this was the product used in the post where a friend had a poor expirience in a heated condition. For this puts end to this. Still will check but i dont anticipate a problem.