dealer denied slave cylinder warranty cause of berk's HFC

COD4 · 10-19-2010, 09:11 AM

Last friday, while turning on the car, I noticed the clutch pedal felt kinda weird and was too low at some points I had to push it up with the tip of my foot.. I drove it home and called this nissan dealer for a next day visit.. End of day1..... Day2

rove my sleepy azz to the dealer at 7am just for them to tell me that they couldn't replicate the problem and since the car was too low they couldn't get it on a lift.. Give me a break 1inch drop is too low??.. Anyways end of day2. Day3:Pedal was back to normal but did notice fluid was at minimum... Called a second dealer and schedule another appointment.. I take the car in and leave it. ServiceAd calls me up and says that due to the high flow cats getting to hot, having no heat shield and coming to close to the clutch lines that the slave cylinder was having a minor leak and that's why it was failing.. Nissan was not going to cover for it... What to do at this point? Sorry if what I'm writing comes out weird.. I'm typing from a phone.
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DIGItonium · 10-19-2010, 09:15 AM

Wow that's odd. I had aftermarket HFC, and my dealer knew it was installed before. Then I went back to stock, but still had aftermarket exhaust. They didn't complain about anything and still did the warranty work.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 09:19 AM

There's really not much you can do now aside from pay out of pocket for the repair. I don't know if you'd have any better luck at a different dealer or not.

COD4 · 10-19-2010, 09:34 AM

Digitonium... So if u had high flow cats before and this happened to u then the servicead was actually right about the flowcats?.. Well I have the stockies.. I can put em back on and try some other dealer?

ClemsonWill · 10-19-2010, 09:37 AM

I would have them show you where the leak occurred. If it's not right next to one of the HFCs then they need to cover it.

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by COD4

Digitonium... So if u had high flow cats before and this happened to u then the servicead was actually right about the flowcats?.. Well I have the stockies.. I can put em back on and try some other dealer?

i'd put them back on and try another dealer.

COD4 · 10-19-2010, 10:06 AM

Things like these make me think twice about modifyin a car.

FuszNissan · 10-19-2010, 10:33 AM

If you can drive it at all; I would go to another dealer.

If your dealer already called the area nissan rep, then you are done no matter where you go.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

If you can drive it at all; I would go to another dealer.

If your dealer already called the area nissan rep, then you are done no matter where you go.

Listen to this man.

Cell · 10-19-2010, 10:35 AM

That is some shaddy shiet.

How does a HFC hurt a slave cylinder? The explanation they gave you sounds illogical. At least to me it does. How does the heal damage it?

FuszNissan · 10-19-2010, 10:38 AM

Also you may exercise your right to fight the claim and prove the HFC's didn't cause the issue, but that may cost more then paying out of pocket for the repair.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cell

That is some shaddy shiet.

How does a HFC hurt a slave cylinder? The explanation they gave you sounds illogical. At least to me it does. How does the heal damage it?

They could argue that the heat caused a line to fail which resulted in a leak which eventually damaged the slave.

Bottom line is if they deny warranty claim it ends up costing you a ton of money to try and fight it.

This is why, for example, if you ever have intakes and have an engine problem, you should throw the stock intakes back on before taking the car in.

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 10:50 AM

do you have comprehensive auto insurance? if so, you might have Mechanical Breakdown Insurance, and maybe they will cover it. I dont see why an exhaust modification should void a warranty on your clutch.

COD4 · 10-19-2010, 11:19 AM

Honestly I don't think the nissan rep knows about it..cause I given a ticket but the ticket shows zero amount meaning noone was charged for any diagnostics.. I don't think they did anything besides putting the car on a lift and that's too much.

VCuomo · 10-19-2010, 12:02 PM

Look, what the dealer is saying is not completely out in left field guys. I've seen composite rear springs fail due to heat from the exhaust system (it's pretty common now for older Corvettes to wrap the exhaust near a composite spring to reduce heat radiation). So for those of you asking "How can an HFC damage a clutch?", there's an example of an exhaust system damaging the suspension.

If the heat from the HFC is causing (or might be causing) the clutch lines to heat up too high - well, there's your answer as to why the warranty is being voided by Nissan.

When modding your new car, "caveat emptor" (in more ways than one)...

10-19-2010, 09:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
COD4 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami, FL Age: 43 Posts: 113 Drives: 370z 6Spd Touring SP Rep Power: 16	dealer denied slave cylinder warranty cause of berk's HFC Last friday, while turning on the car, I noticed the clutch pedal felt kinda weird and was too low at some points I had to push it up with the tip of my foot.. I drove it home and called this nissan dealer for a next day visit.. End of day1..... Day2rove my sleepy azz to the dealer at 7am just for them to tell me that they couldn't replicate the problem and since the car was too low they couldn't get it on a lift.. Give me a break 1inch drop is too low??.. Anyways end of day2. Day3:Pedal was back to normal but did notice fluid was at minimum... Called a second dealer and schedule another appointment.. I take the car in and leave it. ServiceAd calls me up and says that due to the high flow cats getting to hot, having no heat shield and coming to close to the clutch lines that the slave cylinder was having a minor leak and that's why it was failing.. Nissan was not going to cover for it... What to do at this point? Sorry if what I'm writing comes out weird.. I'm typing from a phone. this

10-19-2010, 09:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Wow that's odd. I had aftermarket HFC, and my dealer knew it was installed before. Then I went back to stock, but still had aftermarket exhaust. They didn't complain about anything and still did the warranty work. __________________

10-19-2010, 09:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	There's really not much you can do now aside from pay out of pocket for the repair. I don't know if you'd have any better luck at a different dealer or not. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-19-2010, 09:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
ClemsonWill A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 12,045 Drives: a Civic VP! Rep Power: 445	I would have them show you where the leak occurred. If it's not right next to one of the HFCs then they need to cover it. __________________ Slightly modded

10-19-2010, 10:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	If you can drive it at all; I would go to another dealer. If your dealer already called the area nissan rep, then you are done no matter where you go. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

10-19-2010, 09:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
COD4 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami, FL Age: 43 Posts: 113 Drives: 370z 6Spd Touring SP Rep Power: 16	Digitonium... So if u had high flow cats before and this happened to u then the servicead was actually right about the flowcats?.. Well I have the stockies.. I can put em back on and try some other dealer?

10-19-2010, 10:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
COD4 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami, FL Age: 43 Posts: 113 Drives: 370z 6Spd Touring SP Rep Power: 16	Things like these make me think twice about modifyin a car.

10-19-2010, 10:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cell A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,449 Drives: A Garbage Truck Rep Power: 21	That is some shaddy shiet. How does a HFC hurt a slave cylinder? The explanation they gave you sounds illogical. At least to me it does. How does the heal damage it?

10-19-2010, 10:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	Also you may exercise your right to fight the claim and prove the HFC's didn't cause the issue, but that may cost more then paying out of pocket for the repair. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

10-19-2010, 10:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	do you have comprehensive auto insurance? if so, you might have Mechanical Breakdown Insurance, and maybe they will cover it. I dont see why an exhaust modification should void a warranty on your clutch.

10-19-2010, 11:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
COD4 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami, FL Age: 43 Posts: 113 Drives: 370z 6Spd Touring SP Rep Power: 16	Honestly I don't think the nissan rep knows about it..cause I given a ticket but the ticket shows zero amount meaning noone was charged for any diagnostics.. I don't think they did anything besides putting the car on a lift and that's too much.

10-19-2010, 12:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
VCuomo Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 887 Drives: BMW 335i Sport Rep Power: 17	Look, what the dealer is saying is not completely out in left field guys. I've seen composite rear springs fail due to heat from the exhaust system (it's pretty common now for older Corvettes to wrap the exhaust near a composite spring to reduce heat radiation). So for those of you asking "How can an HFC damage a clutch?", there's an example of an exhaust system damaging the suspension. If the heat from the HFC is causing (or might be causing) the clutch lines to heat up too high - well, there's your answer as to why the warranty is being voided by Nissan. When modding your new car, "caveat emptor" (in more ways than one)... Last edited by VCuomo; 10-19-2010 at 12:23 PM.

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