Automobile Magazine: 40th Anniv 370Z versus new Mustang GT

m4a1mustang · 10-12-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

This thread is really still going?

ProfessorDave · 10-13-2010, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

This thread is really still going?

I, for one, have not yet learned the various nuances of the 5.0 vs. the Z. I will keep reading until two or more of the following happen:

I learn what a live axel is, and what do I feed it to keep it that way?
I learn if it is true that a 5.0 traveling at the legal speed limit on a gentle curve will crash into the guard rail.
I determine which car is faster in reverse (unmodded of course)
I become deeply familiar with the seats of each car, to the point where I can spout off statistics about bolstering, comfort, and head rest positioning
I am convinced to buy a Mustang (although the magazine article has ordered my to buy a 4-door consumer grade mercedes at my age)
Fearless Leader AK is convinced to buy a Mustang, renaming the forum "theformerly370zdotcomnowthesuperiorMustang5point0. com"

ImportConvert · 10-13-2010, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

I, for one, have not yet learned the various nuances of the 5.0 vs. the Z. I will keep reading until two or more of the following happen:

I learn what a live axel is, and what do I feed it to keep it that way? Ford has spent too much time doing that already. Let it die and replace it with IRS. It does well, but it could be better. A half-way decent IRS would be as good as this well-tuned live axle. A GOOD IRS would trump it on the street. On the track, the only advantage IRS has is negative camber. On the streets where bumps and little irregularities exist, IRS owns SRA.
I learn if it is true that a 5.0 traveling at the legal speed limit on a gentle curve will crash into the guard rail. This all depends on whether or not the guard rail is going perpendicular or parallel to the road.
I determine which car is faster in reverse (unmodded of course) The 370Z because it has more weight over the rear tires, proprotionately.
I become deeply familiar with the seats of each car, to the point where I can spout off statistics about bolstering, comfort, and head rest positioning The mustang is pretty good, the Z will hold you tight and poke you from behind. In this way the Z belongs on the set of Deliverance moreso than the Mustang, contrary to initial perception/steriotype.
I am convinced to buy a Mustang (although the magazine article has ordered my to buy a 4-door consumer grade mercedes at my age)
Fearless Leader AK is convinced to buy a Mustang, renaming the forum "theformerly370zdotcomnowthesuperiorMustang5point0. com"

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Zsteve · 10-13-2010, 08:21 AM

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Why a TT? Why a small engine? The Z06 has more power than the GT-R, and gets better mileage. All without the complexity or heat of a turbo-system. It's just one less thing to break, and based on posts in this forum, and every other automotive forum, less things to break are a GOOD THING considering modern dealership's and their propensity to wiggle out of warranties.

I think people get caught up in the CDI factor rather than the "what works" factor a bit much at times. The GM solution is a cam-in-block design, yet it's very light, makes more power than anything else in its class, and gets 24mpg on the highway and 16 in the city.EPA ratings. Actual owners report 2-3mpg more.

For the better mpg and a few pounds lighter.

shadoquad · 10-13-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

I, for one, have not yet learned the various nuances of the 5.0 vs. the Z. I will keep reading until two or more of the following happen:

I learn what a live axel is, and what do I feed it to keep it that way?
I learn if it is true that a 5.0 traveling at the legal speed limit on a gentle curve will crash into the guard rail.
I determine which car is faster in reverse (unmodded of course)
I become deeply familiar with the seats of each car, to the point where I can spout off statistics about bolstering, comfort, and head rest positioning
I am convinced to buy a Mustang (although the magazine article has ordered my to buy a 4-door consumer grade mercedes at my age)
Fearless Leader AK is convinced to buy a Mustang, renaming the forum "theformerly370zdotcomnowthesuperiorMustang5point0. com"

hilarious

ImportConvert · 10-13-2010, 09:37 AM

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For the better mpg and a few pounds lighter.

I thought we covered the fact that Nissan's turbo V6 weighs 150# more than GM's LS7, makes less power, and the GT-R gets the same mileage around town and 3mpg less on the highway, compared to the Z06.

It also has the complexity, cost, and heat-issues inherent to a turbo setup.

SiXK · 10-13-2010, 09:42 AM

meh, you can go fast some of the time, you can look good all the time. Give me the Z.

mustang is a good car, but looks like a fairmont with fat tires. just my .02.

shadoquad · 10-13-2010, 09:42 AM

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I thought we covered the fact that Nissan's turbo V6 weighs 150# more than GM's LS7, makes less power, and the GT-R gets the same mileage around town and 3mpg less on the highway, compared to the Z06.

It also has the complexity, cost, and heat-issues inherent to a turbo setup.

On a side note, the ls7 gets fantastic mileage for its performance. It is awesome in that regard

theDreamer · 10-13-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I thought we covered the fact that Nissan's turbo V6 weighs 150# more than GM's LS7, makes less power, and the GT-R gets the same mileage around town and 3mpg less on the highway, compared to the Z06.

It also has the complexity, cost, and heat-issues inherent to a turbo setup.

Zsteve · 10-13-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I thought we covered the fact that Nissan's turbo V6 weighs 150# more than GM's LS7, makes less power, and the GT-R gets the same mileage around town and 3mpg less on the highway, compared to the Z06.

It also has the complexity, cost, and heat-issues inherent to a turbo setup.

Thats a differernt car that has a back seat and more stable seats then the vette. Im sure you take that V8 vette and put in the V6 TT and its lighter than before. You have to look at each cars weight from what it was before not what another car is that doesnt have a back seat. And even though the GTR has less HP its faster.

m4a1mustang · 10-13-2010, 11:31 AM

He wasn't talking about the weight of the car, he was talking about the weight of the engines themselves. The GT-R's TTV6 is heavier than the LS7.

Zsteve · 10-13-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

He wasn't talking about the weight of the car, he was talking about the weight of the engines themselves. The GT-R's TTV6 is heavier than the LS7.

oh well that I didnt know. ooops.

ImportConvert · 10-13-2010, 11:57 AM

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Thats a differernt car that has a back seat and more stable seats then the vette. Im sure you take that V8 vette and put in the V6 TT and its lighter than before. You have to look at each cars weight from what it was before not what another car is that doesnt have a back seat. And even though the GTR has less HP its faster.

Faster? I was unaware of a bone-stock GT-R having run 10.X's@128+ in the 1/4.

theDreamer · 10-13-2010, 12:03 PM

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Faster? I was unaware of a bone-stock GT-R having run 10.X's@128+ in the 1/4.

Really, who ran a bone stock Z06 in the 10s?

WarmAndSCSI · 10-13-2010, 12:06 PM

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Really, who ran a bone stock Z06 in the 10s?

10-second stock C6 Corvette Z06 on run flats — Autoblog

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SiXK Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 352 Drives: 09 370Z / 91 300ZXTT Rep Power: 185	meh, you can go fast some of the time, you can look good all the time. Give me the Z. mustang is a good car, but looks like a fairmont with fat tires. just my .02. __________________ Magnetic Black 2009 370Z / Pearl Yellow 1991 300ZXTT

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	He wasn't talking about the weight of the car, he was talking about the weight of the engines themselves. The GT-R's TTV6 is heavier than the LS7. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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