Automobile Magazine: 40th Anniv 370Z versus new Mustang GT

Endgame · 10-16-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

who said anything about racing? the speed limits in my area range from 35-55. Which is why 0-60 matters to me, get up and go is what I appreciate, not top end 150mph pulls.

But police will issue tickets for exhibition of speed; either way, you get a ticket...

That said, I wonder who police will target more: The 5.0 or the 370?

ProfessorDave · 10-16-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

They do. 0-10, on up to 0-150, in 10mph increments. At least, the new 5.0 GT and 370Z review I read shows it.

Good to know!

I can also see how the 20-60 sort of assessment would be very relevant, too.

But I really want to know if my coffee will spill all over in the cup holder of the 5.0, just like it does in my Z. With a lid. And a spill guard.

Could be the driver, though

stacy001 · 10-16-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I have to disagree. The 350Z wasn't that great (plastic EVERYWHERE, rear-end and oil-consumpton issues, blah blah blah), and I think the 2005+ mustang's were much better built (no real issues with them that I was aware of. I worked for Ford when they came out and we never had any in for anything but oil-changes).

The 370Z has a nicer interior for sure, but then so does the 2011 mustang. I think that mechanically, the mustang is AT LEAST as sound as the 370Z. As far as "feel" goes, I think the Z has a better lay-out, but that isn't about quality, it's ergonomics.

Test drove the mustang, challenger, and camaro several times before buying my 370Z. In my opinion the Z is more responsive in handling. Better center of gravity. Fit and finish is better, overall lay out is better.

ImportConvert · 10-17-2010, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stacy001

Test drove the mustang, challenger, and camaro several times before buying my 370Z. In my opinion the Z is more responsive in handling. Better center of gravity. Fit and finish is better, overall lay out is better.

I agree with that. I love the interior/layout of the Z. However, mechanically I think the new mustang is just as good.

Jeffblue · 10-17-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stacy001

If you want a sports car get a Z.. If you want a muscle car that starts falling apart at 25,000 miles, get a Ford. The quality of the Z is sooo much better..

its pretty impressive that you know a car that just came out car will start falling apart at 25,000 miles.

m4a1mustang · 10-17-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

its pretty impressive that you know a car that just came out car will start falling apart at 25,000 miles.

You have to be a moron to think that just about any car these days will fall apart that soon. I know he's probably just being a smartass, but c'mon. Ford ranks higher than Nissan in quality and has for some time.

I know from owning both cars that the Z is not built better than the Mustang and the Mustang is not built better than the Z. They both use the same high quality materials and a Premium GT is very comparable to a Touring 370. I do have to say, though, that the leather-wrapped center stack on the 370 goes a LONG way on creating a posh feel, especially coupled with the faux-suede seat inserts and door cards. And it's just hard to beat Japanese ergonomics.

FWIW, the older Fords may have been built with some crappy interiors but they were far from unreliable. My sister is still driving her 2002 Mustang which has over 150,000 miles on it and has only been in for oil changes.

You can expect any mechanically sound car go to that long without issue assuming YOU take care of it properly!

*oops* BRB guys, my engine just fell out. Anyone got some duct tape?

theDreamer · 10-17-2010, 11:09 AM

Duct tape, dude just grab some glue and you will be fine.

m4a1mustang · 10-17-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Duct tape, dude just grab some glue and you will be fine.

JB Weld!

It works for turbos.

Red370 · 10-17-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

JB Weld!

It works for turbos.

oh man, I almost forgot that thread, I think I need to reminisce

ProfessorDave · 10-17-2010, 12:42 PM

So I was watching Spike today (Horsepower TV maybe?), and they were putting a 5.0 ford motor in a Factory Five hot rod coupe. Anyway, they dynoed the engine, and got 460+ BHP out it. I'm pretty sure it was stock. Is this the case? Does the GT have that output (which is well over the 412 advertised power)?

m4a1mustang · 10-17-2010, 12:44 PM

Well I know it was on an engine dyno and I don't know if they had any emissions controls on it, but I've seen stock dynos in the 380-400 whp range so it's possible.

theDreamer · 10-17-2010, 12:45 PM

Well, an open exhaust since the stock exhaust would not work would help pump out some power.

ProfessorDave · 10-17-2010, 12:53 PM

Engine had some kind of exhaust hooked onto it, and I could see cats at the end of the headers (which were very nicely designed IMO).

m4a1mustang · 10-17-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

Engine had some kind of exhaust hooked onto it, and I could see cats at the end of the headers (which were very nicely designed IMO).

Yeah the OEM headers are pretty killer. We don't see quite the gains with exhaust that you guys do since the factory exhaust was engineered so well.

Red370 · 10-17-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah the OEM headers are pretty killer. We don't see quite the gains with exhaust that you guys do since the factory exhaust was engineered so well.

yeah, Ford went all out engineering these things for power, its almost like they added aftermarket headers along with a sweet H-pipe. Only gripe I have about the factory exhaust is the crimps they put in it to get it to clear the cross member and rear axle. And yeah, a few guys are dyno'ing around 390whp and 360wtq, and if you factor in 15% drivetrain loss, its making around 440bhp and 405 ft/lbs, so its not entirely out of the question. Another funny thing is that they seem to pick up another 10whp/ft.lbs after the engine has reached 1500 miles or so.

10-17-2010, 11:09 AM	#262 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Duct tape, dude just grab some glue and you will be fine. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 19	So I was watching Spike today (Horsepower TV maybe?), and they were putting a 5.0 ford motor in a Factory Five hot rod coupe. Anyway, they dynoed the engine, and got 460+ BHP out it. I'm pretty sure it was stock. Is this the case? Does the GT have that output (which is well over the 412 advertised power)? __________________ Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Well I know it was on an engine dyno and I don't know if they had any emissions controls on it, but I've seen stock dynos in the 380-400 whp range so it's possible. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-17-2010, 12:45 PM	#267 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Well, an open exhaust since the stock exhaust would not work would help pump out some power. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-17-2010, 12:53 PM	#268 (permalink)
ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 19	Engine had some kind of exhaust hooked onto it, and I could see cats at the end of the headers (which were very nicely designed IMO). __________________ Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT

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