VDC...off?

AtomicRob · 10-06-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

You should probably just stop now.

ClemsonWill · 10-06-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

If you feel the need to turn off VDC because its interfering with your daily driving by kicking in all the time, then you are driving like an ass, and your idea of 'daily driving' is dangerous. You shouldn't be losing traction very often if you are driving safely and are conscious of other people on the road. If you have VDC off because you like to drift while you're driving to the grocery store, then you are a hazard to everyone on the road.

If you're finding yourself turning VDC off whilst daily driving, then get your cheap ass to the track or an autocross event and get it out of your system. Thats what it really comes down to. Its not like you don't want to take your car to a track. It's that you don't want to spend the money, so your cheap ass decides to be a hooligan on public roadways. the funny thing is, the fine you'd wind up with if you were to get pulled over is less than a track day would cost. However, if you kill someone, you're probably gonna wind up going to jail for vehicular manslaughter/negligence.

Well said!

kenchan · 10-06-2010, 10:58 AM

if it wasn't for these dumbarses , nissan would've put the right front offset wheels on our cars imho. wth's with +47?! lol still kids crash into things.

this car should have came out of the box +27/+15.

Mt Tam I am · 10-06-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

If you feel the need to turn off VDC because its interfering with your daily driving by kicking in all the time, then you are driving like an ass, and your idea of 'daily driving' is dangerous. You shouldn't be losing traction very often if you are driving safely and are conscious of other people on the road. If you have VDC off because you like to drift while you're driving to the grocery store, then you are a hazard to everyone on the road.

If you're finding yourself turning VDC off whilst daily driving, then get your cheap ass to the track or an autocross event and get it out of your system. Thats what it really comes down to. Its not like you don't want to take your car to a track. It's that you don't want to spend the money, so your cheap ass decides to be a hooligan on public roadways. the funny thing is, the fine you'd wind up with if you were to get pulled over is less than a track day would cost. However, if you kill someone, you're probably gonna wind up going to jail for vehicular manslaughter/negligence.

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

try living on a steep hill, it will bug the living hell out of you

I agree with Cossie1600 100%.

I do not have the ability to read the hearts and minds of men, like a deity, and Jeffblue. It must be wonderful. Then to draw an irrational and emotional conclusion makes me think you are my mother in-law. So i'll just ask, are you she? Although I do agree with Jeffblue, one should not daily drift to the store, as an opinion.

I live on a steep mountain and with VDC on, it lights up, and activates the tugging and pulling of the brakes needlessly, with great frequency the entire ride downhill. With VDC off, the same drive at the same speed, the California Highway Patrol behind me, not one peep out of the tires, no loss of traction, and I am still under the speed limit. Your conclusion I am driving like an *** and I am cheap. The CHP clearly drew a different conclusion about the former.

Regarding cheapness: I worked my way through University and educated myself before I bought an expensive car. This education including critical thinking and logic. Wether or not you went to college or not, it is obvious you do not think logically. Aristotle would agree with me. So if needed sell your car, and educate yourself before you jump to a one size fits all chastisement. It is worth it, just to avoid embarrassing gaffs like the one you made.

I am very surprised that others agree with your statement: You shouldn't be losing traction very often if you are driving safely and are conscious of other people on the road.
How often, is very often, in your opinion to lose traction, safely? Clearly you have a number or frequency in mind that it is safe. A few times a day, once a day, once a week. What have you determined so that we are illuminated to your mind set. Many, myself included, would argue safety dictates no loss of traction ever.

cossie1600 · 10-06-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

You should probably just stop now.

I know my Prius won't cut power in tight corners or when I need to go WOT. The VDC on the Z cars love to cut throttle or apply brakes in random moments. It's easy for me to activate the VDC doing a 5mph tight turn into my private road. A good system should only intrude when you need it, not at random moments. I know a lot of people have never driven other cars with VDC, but do give them a shot before you talk about how good the Nissan system is.

Why do you buy your car to cruise at 55mph? You can get a Prius and get 2x the gas mileage and 2/3 the cost. What a waste. Also going by your view, Miami Heat shouldn't even play a game and they will win a championship.

flashburn · 10-06-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I know my Prius won't cut power in tight corners or when I need to go WOT. The VDC on the Z cars love to cut throttle or apply brakes in random moments. It's easy for me to activate the VDC doing a 5mph tight turn into my private road. A good system should only intrude when you need it, not at random moments. I know a lot of people have never driven other cars with VDC, but do give them a shot before you talk about how good the Nissan system is.

Why do you buy your car to cruise at 55mph? You can get a Prius and get 2x the gas mileage and 2/3 the cost. What a waste. Also going by your view, Miami Heat shouldn't even play a game and they will win a championship.

My view? Please, show me where you can see my view on this subject. Except for the fact that I think it's ridiculous to say that if we drive with VDC on then we might as well just drive a Prius. Actually, it isn't ridiculous, just ******* stupid.

cossie1600 · 10-06-2010, 03:32 PM

sorry i wasnt talking about your comment, it was to the other guy who claims he doesnt need to drive the car fast just because he knows it is. (track autox or whatever)

AllForTheCash · 10-06-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed

I really don't understand why one would want to turn VDC off other than racing on a track, it really baffles me.

Anyway, please post some pix of your crashed Z with VDC off (that's if you survived the crash of course), we sure love seeing those.

I drove my G35c 6MT with it off all the time...Shifts were much smoother even at low RPM....I noticed the same with the 370z, I drive the car with it off all the time....I never wrecked my G35c 6MT....I'll post pics of the 370z....I haven't rev'd it past 3,500RPM yet...

Jeffblue · 10-06-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I agree with Cossie1600 100%.

I do not have the ability to read the hearts and minds of men, like a deity, and Jeffblue. It must be wonderful. Then to draw an irrational and emotional conclusion makes me think you are my mother in-law. So i'll just ask, are you she? Although I do agree with Jeffblue, one should not daily drift to the store, as an opinion.

I live on a steep mountain and with VDC on, it lights up, and activates the tugging and pulling of the brakes needlessly, with great frequency the entire ride downhill. With VDC off, the same drive at the same speed, the California Highway Patrol behind me, not one peep out of the tires, no loss of traction, and I am still under the speed limit. Your conclusion I am driving like an *** and I am cheap. The CHP clearly drew a different conclusion about the former.

Regarding cheapness: I worked my way through University and educated myself before I bought an expensive car. This education including critical thinking and logic. Wether or not you went to college or not, it is obvious you do not think logically. Aristotle would agree with me. So if needed sell your car, and educate yourself before you jump to a one size fits all chastisement. It is worth it, just to avoid embarrassing gaffs like the one you made.

I am very surprised that others agree with your statement: You shouldn't be losing traction very often if you are driving safely and are conscious of other people on the road.
How often, is very often, in your opinion to lose traction, safely? Clearly you have a number or frequency in mind that it is safe. A few times a day, once a day, once a week. What have you determined so that we are illuminated to your mind set. Many, myself included, would argue safety dictates no loss of traction ever.

i went to college. i bought my own Z. i am very logical. I dont see the need for these stupid VDC threads. did you really mention 'aristotle' in a thread about traction control.... i mean, really?

memorylasts · 10-06-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

i went to college. i bought my own Z. i am very logical. I dont see the need for these stupid VDC threads. did you really mention 'aristotle' in a thread about traction control.... i mean, really?

Apparently he did, mention 'Aristotle'...

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Anyways, this thread is going in circles, if people have a problem with they way i am most comfortable driving my car, in San Diego, CA come let me know. I Dont Drive with VDC on, hell even in rain, and yes i said rain... I drove for my First 5-6 yrs in ny in snow not the city, and through the four seasons, i have a pretty damn good understanding of road conditions and what the car is doing under me, and when i feel i could use a little nanny i turn the thing on. I have been out here for about 4.5 yrs... and the general populous dont know how to drive. Im not trying to toot any horn....im just saying... i also grew up with a father who taught me just about everything i know about cars, what to do in situations when **** gets a littls out of place etc...

But with all the highway sweepers and high bank entrance/exit ramps we have here well they are fun to push on, within reason.

I am a person that is constantly on alert and unfortunately it allows me to drive with quick responses as well as allow myself to move with traffic in a law abiding manner.

BOTTOM LINE

DRIVE WITHIN YOUR OWN APPROPRIATE SKILL LEVEL.

cossie1600 · 10-06-2010, 07:03 PM

Books don't teach you the limitation of electronics and the side effects. You should learn the pros and cons of the system before you tell people what they should do.

memorylasts · 10-06-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Books don't teach you the limitation of electronics and the side effects. You should learn the pros and cons of the system before you tell people what they should do.

Who are you addressing?

memorylasts · 10-06-2010, 07:08 PM

Also Nissan would not have put a button to shut the program off if it wasn't meant to be used....

Trips · 10-06-2010, 07:11 PM

I think this thread is done!!

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2010, 07:24 PM

I love you trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Books don't teach you the limitation of electronics and the side effects. You should learn the pros and cons of the system before you tell people what they should do.