Stock 370Z Ever run a 6-speed LS1 car?

theDreamer · 10-03-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Just the facts.

That is a paper number, a better way of writing it is for every 100lbs you take off, you take off X time on the track. Also, it depends on where the weight is taken and how it balances the car.

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Although, I should say that it was EASY to break into the 12s with just a couple cheap mods.

11's were just $2500 away in an F-body. $1800 or so if a friend would loan you some ET's to bolt up.

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

That is a paper number, a better way of writing it is for every 100lbs you take off, you take off X time on the track.

I could have easily rolled on a car that I only had a fender on if the heiffer wasn't with me. THAT is a fact. No paper involved.

theDreamer · 10-03-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I could have easily rolled on a car that I only had a fender on if the heiffer wasn't with me. THAT is a fact. No paper involved.

But again, that is not a hp gain, but a time reduction. HP gain is hard to measure from weight lose, the proper way of doing it is you ran a faster time.

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

But again, that is not a hp gain, but a time reduction. HP gain is hard to measure from weight lose, the proper way of doing it is you ran a faster time.

It was the difference between victory and defeat. Much more resounding than "time reduction" or "hp gain".

fairladyZ34 · 10-04-2010, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Personal experience? Have you owned a LS1/T56 car? I never found that it had a dead zone. At no speed could I tell a difference. If a car beat me (rare), it beat me at any speed. If I beat it, nothing was going to save it except me blowing the launch. The automatics had a dead-zone, and I used to have an auto LT1. It was horrible.

yeah personal experience, it was dead even. my 370z was stock and the ws6 had exhaust

ImportConvert · 10-04-2010, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ34

yeah personal experience, it was dead even. my 370z was stock and the ws6 had exhaust

6-speed or auto Ws6?

Sounds like how the 2 cars felt comparatively when I test-drove the Z.

What kind of exhaust are we talking on the WS6?

CBRich · 10-04-2010, 07:27 AM

ImportConvert, it looks like your last thread got closed because it was apparent that you were content to just ramble on defending your F-Body cars and pointing out the flaws of the 370Z (which we are well aware of as most of us own one.) I understand, you love the F-Body vehicles and won't be owning a 370 anytime soon. So what is the point of these conversations continuing? If you want to argue with someone over why they beat an F-Body take it to PM.

Somebody close this thing down.

fairladyZ34 · 10-04-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

6-speed or auto Ws6?

Sounds like how the 2 cars felt comparatively when I test-drove the Z.

What kind of exhaust are we talking on the WS6?

it was a 6 speed ws6 with SLP exhaust i think, i raced him thinking it was a regular 5.7 but after the race he told me it was a ws6

ImportConvert · 10-04-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ34

it was a 6 speed ws6 with SLP exhaust i think, i raced him thinking it was a regular 5.7 but after the race he told me it was a ws6

Good race. The WS6/SS/Z28/Trans Am all run the same times at the track. The only *real* difference anyone can claim is that the SS/WS6 automatics get the 3.23 rear-end standard instead of optional. They all make 350 horsepower, same as the C5 corvette of equivalent year. The 305/325/etc. is just marketing.

Again, this goes to prove what I thought all along about Torque. If you can drive and are geared properly, it really doesn't matter.

ImportConvert · 10-04-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

ImportConvert, it looks like your last thread got closed because it was apparent that you were content to just ramble on defending your F-Body cars and pointing out the flaws of the 370Z (which we are well aware of as most of us own one.) I understand, you love the F-Body vehicles and won't be owning a 370 anytime soon. So what is the point of these conversations continuing? If you want to argue with someone over why they beat an F-Body take it to PM.

Somebody close this thing down.

No, I do not love F-bodies. I traded my F-body for a 4-cylinder Infiniti. Hate the cars. However, I wanted to know if buying a Z would be a trade up in performance or not. It appears that mainly I would be gaining quality/luxury and breaking even with performance. You are right, though. I don't want to have another mid 300bhp car. I am ready for a bit more. Nothing against the Z, though. I drove a few, rode in a few. Nothing bad to say about it other than it is working with a late 90's engine. It needs a late 2000's engine.

Was not arguing with the man about his races at all. He didn't claim to beat it, he claimed to be equal with it. I can belive that. I barely walked a 265whp 350 in my WS6. Slow 2-car pull to 120 or so. If his 370 is a stronger one making 280 or so, yeah, sounds about right given my experience. I do think the Z has a much more effectively geared transmission, though. The double overdrive kills the LS1 cars after about 130. The Z can keep on going in the meat of its powerband.

The BlueMax · 10-04-2010, 10:13 PM

Ok guys I own a 97 WS6 with a manual, ordered it in late 96. It now has 45K well cared for miles. My 09 370 represents a complete change in respect to my past. The Z is superior to my Trans Am in every aspect except for torque,
the gearbox and that V8 sound. I love compairing and contrasting both cars and it a priviledge to own and drive both, as for which one is faster, I'm not sure, there both so different in the way they execute.

Rooskey · 10-04-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The BlueMax

Ok guys I own a 97 WS6 with a manual, ordered it in late 96. It now has 45K well cared for miles. My 09 370 represents a complete change in respect to my past. The Z is superior to my Trans Am in every aspect except for torque,
the gearbox and that V8 sound. I love compairing and contrasting both cars and it a priviledge to own and drive both, as for which one is faster, I'm not sure, there both so different in the way they execute.

Your exactly right. I have competed with them and won a few and lost a few. I have a 67 camaro with a big blue bottle in the trunk to deal with those. I just wanted a different pace from the drag strip with a nice high performance car that is alot of fun to drive. Im also sure the resale value will be alot better as well with my nismo.

10-04-2010, 10:13 PM	#27 (permalink)
The BlueMax Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louisville Posts: 337 Drives: 09 370/97 T/A 01 ZRX Rep Power: 25	Ok guys I own a 97 WS6 with a manual, ordered it in late 96. It now has 45K well cared for miles. My 09 370 represents a complete change in respect to my past. The Z is superior to my Trans Am in every aspect except for torque, the gearbox and that V8 sound. I love compairing and contrasting both cars and it a priviledge to own and drive both, as for which one is faster, I'm not sure, there both so different in the way they execute. __________________ The Blue Max

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	ImportConvert, it looks like your last thread got closed because it was apparent that you were content to just ramble on defending your F-Body cars and pointing out the flaws of the 370Z (which we are well aware of as most of us own one.) I understand, you love the F-Body vehicles and won't be owning a 370 anytime soon. So what is the point of these conversations continuing? If you want to argue with someone over why they beat an F-Body take it to PM. Somebody close this thing down.