Not at all. No where in my method do you ride the clutch. My method is simply this:

When you're at a stop - Left foot clutch in, right foot brake on.
When you're on a hill - Left foot clutch in, right foot brake on.
When you're going - Right foot gas.

At no point do I say that you should be at a stop while clutching and gassing. Riding the clutch is when you're "halfing" the clutch and gas with the goal of not using the brake and not moving forward or backwards.

My point was that you should ALWAYS be in gear. That's not riding the clutch at all.

And to clear the "terms" up, the only way you can be in neutral is when the shifter is not in gear. Clutching in while in gear is not a method of being in neutral as "neutral" is a transmission term.

In my opinion it depends on the situation. Here in the Atlanta area if I'm at a stoplight that I know is going to be at least 2-3 minutes then I keep the car in neutral until I know the light is about to change then I go ahead and engage the clutch a couple of seconds before the light changes. No way am I going to sit there with the clutch in for 3 minutes...

I see what your saying, i just assumed foot in the clutch was considered riding. I read some where maybe even on here, while your driving dont even let your foot rest on the clutch put it on the dead pedal so you dont press in.

But obviously as your saying theres no gas involved in your scenario where the other ones there is.

^^^ Correct on both counts. Don't rest your foot on the clutch and with the clutch completely disengaged, you can't ride it.

There's a "dead peddle" in all manuals where you can rest your foot. It's to the left of the clutch and usually puts your foot about 3/4 the distance of the clutch travel. First time I was learning to drive manual I had no idea about that and my leg was getting really tired. LOL

luckly for me i read first so i have been making full use of it. But i have to say reading and doing are WAY to different things.

I am going to attempt to perfect your method for minor hills.

Hmmm, I haven't been around lately, but it seems like my post about the e-brake start has been misunderstood.

You do NOT ride the clutch at any point while doing this. The e-brake simply keeps the car in place while you take off like normal, then as soon as the clutch engages, you let off the e-brake. If you're a good enough driver, you'll rarely/never need it, but I still use this technique on HUGE hills when someone is right behind me. It's a nice trick for the beginner, so they don't stall the car or back into the person behind them because they feel rushed.

^^ Right. I use the e-brake technique when I'm on a hill in the rain. Rear wheel drive cars are a pain in the *** on huge hills to get going in the rain because the back wheels just spin as soon as you put power to them. I use the e-brake and ease the power to the wheels in that case.

another question that has been bugging me.

Lets say im in a parking lot and the speed is posted 5mph. What gear are you guys doing that in? it feels like first does not like it and second just wants to take off hehe.

I'd say 2nd, 1st is really for those dead stop take offs once you get going get into second even if its for 5mph.

LOL! I idle in 1st and that does the trick. ;)

It's really hard to idle in 2nd slower than 10 MPH, but that may be just my car.

The Z with an automatic transmission will probably lose in a straight line run. From a dyno result that have been posted here, the loss of power from an automatic is greater than that in a manual transmission. Technically, it wouldn't matter how much faster the auto may be able to shift. Unless, the transmission is the same as that of the current GTR... then, that's a different story.

Back to topic --

Forrest... If you want a smooth acceleration from a hill no matter how steep it is, I personally suggest for you to learn how to blip the throttle in partially engaged clutch. Blip the throttle gentle enough to keep the car from rolling back and to create enough momentum to get the car moving forward; until you reach the point to be able to accelerate as if you're rolling from a flat surface. This involves working the clutch to engage enough so that it doesn't stall; at the same time working the gas enough to hold and move the car forward.

It's a tricky technique, but if you master it, steepness of the hill wouldn't matter to you, at all.

When I was learning, I find it harder to hold the gas, while working the clutch to find that engagement point to move the car smoothly. This way, you can find that engagement without possibly burning the clutch or lurching forward.

Keep in 2nd if you want but dont give it gas. The engine should be producing enough torque to keep the car from stalling.

The common torque converter automatic will NEVER be as fast as the DSG transmissions. The reason those transmissions are so fast is because they have a separate clutch for 1,3,5 and 2,4,6. When in one gear, the other clutch has already positioned itself for the next gear. The change between gears becomes seamless and no power is lost in the transfer between gear sets. Even the single disc Ferrari transmissions that shift faster than any other single disc transmission still don't shift as fast as a DSG. That's all there is to it.