Z vs Gen.

Jeffblue · 09-27-2010, 03:40 PM

i was just trying to stay on topic since this topic was 'z vs GC'

i agree with you on the cayman being put down by porsche corporate. However, the Z is very close in performance to the cayman, but the price difference is huge. Where as the GC is close to the performance of the infiniti, but the price difference isn't that huge, making someone more likely to jump to the infiniti from a GC than a Z to a cayman.

PapoZalsa · 09-27-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

I dont think no rear wiper is an issue. I dont like them
You only need turbo's when you dont have enough performance so thats not really an "issue" thats like saying the z06 not having turbo's is a problem.
No rear camera again isnt an issue...

Issues are the CSC, no oil cooler..

The rear wiper is not needed! Looks ugly anyway.

The Z is a sport car, not a luxury car for a camera!

The turbos would brought the price up! I'm in the middle in this one...

The only issue is the oil cooler and oil consumption for some owners.

Other than that the Z is a SPORT CAR at a good price!

Lemers · 09-27-2010, 09:41 PM

I agree with Pop

The rear whiper is a non-issue (I wouldn't rule out a car based on rear whipers)

I would have gotten a rear camera if it were availible but it wasn't and it wasn't availible on the Gen at the time I bought my Z so no comparison needed (Oh the 2011 Z will have rear cameras availible)

would it be cool to have turbos hell yeah, but I'm not wanting to spend $50k to $60k on a car

And Nissan needs to get off their a$$ and not play warranty games if Z owners have oil cools installed.

The Z is not a luxury car and neither is the Gen, the Z is a true sports car that is some the Gen can't claim.

ihatepotholes · 09-27-2010, 09:46 PM

give me a effing break, i can't believe people are comparing the genesis to g37.

guy sounds a lot like you are trying to justify your purchase, just be happy with what you have. but you need a reality check if you think genesis comes remotely close to a g37. and no im not a g37 owner, this is pure unbiased opinion

matt@qc · 09-28-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

give me a effing break, i can't believe people are comparing the genesis to g37.

guy sounds a lot like you are trying to justify your purchase, just be happy with what you have. but you need a reality check if you think genesis comes remotely close to a g37. and no im not a g37 owner, this is pure unbiased opinion

Good thing you ride a bicycle.

P.S.: You don't need to own either to be a fanboy. Your lack of either car also doesn't make your opinion any less subjective.

daisuke149 · 09-28-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

give me a effing break, i can't believe people are comparing the genesis to g37.

guy sounds a lot like you are trying to justify your purchase, just be happy with what you have. but you need a reality check if you think genesis comes remotely close to a g37. and no im not a g37 owner, this is pure unbiased opinion

you may not own a g37 and have probably never cehcked out a gen coupe.. so then yes your opinion is probably actually very biased. heck most people in this country think of Hyundai as that off brand.. justt too stupid and stubborn to realize that they are a competitor today just like the big 3 Japanese Auto makers.

and since were on a 370z forum, im not trying to justify my buying a 370z but am still saying that the gen coupe can be compared to the g37 you can have similar fun, features for less money. Lets face it. were on the internet discussing cars so obviously we give a **** about cares more than the average Joe Blow. Will the average guy see a huge difference in the g37 and gen coupe? Yes... they will see the 8k price difference and shorter warranty. That is if they can compare both cars without the ridiculous thoughts of Oh Hyundai still makes cars that last 2 days.

P.S 20 years ago plenty of people said "i will never buy that shitty nissan or datsun".

ihatepotholes · 09-28-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by matt@qc

Good thing you ride a bicycle.

P.S.: You don't need to own either to be a fanboy. Your lack of either car also doesn't make your opinion any less subjective.

Lol so I'm a fan boy by default because I think one is superior to another? Hahaha so because I disagree with you and my opinion is some how biased? Are you in high school? Lol go on my350z and find out what I drive

ihatepotholes · 09-28-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

you may not own a g37 and have probably never cehcked out a gen coupe.. so then yes your opinion is probably actually very biased. heck most people in this country think of Hyundai as that off brand.. justt too stupid and stubborn to realize that they are a competitor today just like the big 3 Japanese Auto

P.S 20 years ago plenty of people said "i will never buy that shitty nissan or datsun".

so you automatically ASSUMED I have never checked out the genesis. I didn't even bother to read your post after the first sentence. Get all the imformation first next time u wanna start an argument or discussion. So u wouldn't sound like an 'u know what'

GZ3 · 09-28-2010, 10:32 AM

i cant believe these 2 cars are being compared...a hyundai vs INFINITI...are you serious...the GC may perform well but please...hyundai, kia, they are generic cheap vehicles. They may perform, and have good build quality as of lately but they are not to be compared to INFINITY g37. I would never cross shop these two vehicles

daisuke149 · 09-28-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

so you automatically ASSUMED I have never checked out the genesis. I didn't even bother to read your post after the first sentence. Get all the imformation first next time u wanna start an argument or discussion. So u wouldn't sound like an 'u know what'

Seems like you didn't bother to read alot of posts or in general alot of things that compare the gen coupe to the g37.

Like i said in other statements, to us people who are "enthusiastic" about cars they may not compare, but to average joe blow, they do. Unless they are the type of people who think Hyundai, ewwww.

So try to have an unbiased opinion before you say its unbiased.

daisuke149 · 09-28-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

i cant believe these 2 cars are being compared...a hyundai vs INFINITI...are you serious...the GC may perform well but please...hyundai, kia, they are generic cheap vehicles. They may perform, and have good build quality as of lately but they are not to be compared to INFINITY g37. I would never cross shop these two vehicles

I understand you may not, but then its because look at your first statement. your comparing names. not the car.

I wonder how many people on this forum own a samsung TV? Cus about 6 years ago their TV's were absolute ****.

And again they compare to the g37 due to:
Similar hp.
Similar style
Similar seating
Similar driving characteristics

Now im saying its similar, not equal. So yes, its not better or equal to a g37 but for 8-10k less it does a damn good job. Thats the point that most people are trying to make on this forum and alot of people seem to go all ape ****.

ihatepotholes · 09-28-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

Seems like you didn't bother to read alot of posts or in general alot of things that compare the gen coupe to the g37.

Like i said in other statements, to us people who are "enthusiastic" about cars they may not compare, but to average joe blow, they do. Unless they are the type of people who think Hyundai, ewwww.

So try to have an unbiased opinion before you say its unbiased.

Umm... I was in the passenger seat of a genesis for 2 hours, the build quality is not on par with g37, not even close. Ride quality is far from it too. Now I'm all about speed and normally I don't care about the creature comfort and such. But this car has nothing. I'm not a fan of VQ engines so yes I am unbiased

Push370zzz · 09-28-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

Umm... I was in the passenger seat of a genesis for 2 hours, the build quality is not on par with g37, not even close. Ride quality is far from it too. Now I'm all about speed and normally I don't care about the creature comfort and such. But this car has nothing. I'm not a fan of VQ engines so yes I am unbiased

No offense man but are you even reading what people are saying? I agree with you that the G37 is lightyears ahead of the Genesis in every category except pricing, but you get what you pay for. Just relax though...just about everybody except the guy WITH the Gen coupe who has posted in this thread agrees with you.

optiontrader · 09-29-2010, 02:25 AM

*My head hurts*

I want a Z · 10-03-2010, 12:10 PM

Just test drove a 3.8 Tack this weekend. I went in not expecting to like it, thinking it wouild be under powered and not fun to drive. Boy was I wrong, I actually really liked the Gen Coupe. I also tested the G37 but found the seats very uncomfortable, the bottom bolstering just hit me in the wrong spots and I am not a big guy.
The price is great but not a real factor in my decisions, I can afford an M3, G37 what ever - but I do consider the value/price ratio.
I am just looking for something that I like.

I have been testing a bunch of cars current short list is
370Z, 335IS/M3 (That's a whole different discussion there), Mustang 5.0, Gen Coupe.

tested and didn't make the short list: Audi TT, Lexus 350IS, G37 (actually loved everything about this car but could never live with the seats)

Anything I am missing that I should drive?

09-27-2010, 09:41 PM	#63 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I agree with Pop The rear whiper is a non-issue (I wouldn't rule out a car based on rear whipers) I would have gotten a rear camera if it were availible but it wasn't and it wasn't availible on the Gen at the time I bought my Z so no comparison needed (Oh the 2011 Z will have rear cameras availible) would it be cool to have turbos hell yeah, but I'm not wanting to spend $50k to $60k on a car And Nissan needs to get off their a$$ and not play warranty games if Z owners have oil cools installed. The Z is not a luxury car and neither is the Gen, the Z is a true sports car that is some the Gen can't claim. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

09-28-2010, 10:32 AM	#69 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 22	i cant believe these 2 cars are being compared...a hyundai vs INFINITI...are you serious...the GC may perform well but please...hyundai, kia, they are generic cheap vehicles. They may perform, and have good build quality as of lately but they are not to be compared to INFINITY g37. I would never cross shop these two vehicles __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

09-29-2010, 02:25 AM	#74 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 16	My head hurts __________________ 40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

09-27-2010, 03:40 PM	#61 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	i was just trying to stay on topic since this topic was 'z vs GC' i agree with you on the cayman being put down by porsche corporate. However, the Z is very close in performance to the cayman, but the price difference is huge. Where as the GC is close to the performance of the infiniti, but the price difference isn't that huge, making someone more likely to jump to the infiniti from a GC than a Z to a cayman.

09-27-2010, 09:46 PM	#64 (permalink)
ihatepotholes Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: nj Posts: 129 Drives: 2012 Boss 302 Rep Power: 15	give me a effing break, i can't believe people are comparing the genesis to g37. guy sounds a lot like you are trying to justify your purchase, just be happy with what you have. but you need a reality check if you think genesis comes remotely close to a g37. and no im not a g37 owner, this is pure unbiased opinion

10-03-2010, 12:10 PM	#75 (permalink)
I want a Z Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MD Posts: 225 Drives: 03 Chevy Avalanche Rep Power: 15	Just test drove a 3.8 Tack this weekend. I went in not expecting to like it, thinking it wouild be under powered and not fun to drive. Boy was I wrong, I actually really liked the Gen Coupe. I also tested the G37 but found the seats very uncomfortable, the bottom bolstering just hit me in the wrong spots and I am not a big guy. The price is great but not a real factor in my decisions, I can afford an M3, G37 what ever - but I do consider the value/price ratio. I am just looking for something that I like. I have been testing a bunch of cars current short list is 370Z, 335IS/M3 (That's a whole different discussion there), Mustang 5.0, Gen Coupe. tested and didn't make the short list: Audi TT, Lexus 350IS, G37 (actually loved everything about this car but could never live with the seats) Anything I am missing that I should drive?