Z vs Gen.

Supergoji · 09-26-2010, 10:16 PM

alrighhhht.

first off a well driven 350z is a low to mid 13 second car.

next a Genesis coupe is not 90% of a G37. that we all know. but it's close as far as luxury and standard features go.

the genesis coupe is an ok car, but it needs a couple more generations till becomes a great car. with the proper body mods it looks great, it sounds great, and im sure with the proper suspension mods it handles great too. but out of the factory it needs work.

and the engine in the genesis is FAR from bulletproof, hyundai shot themselves in the foot when they decided to use a watered down version of the 4B11, instead of using the lancer evo's engine. they should have also given it better gearing. which we all know helps.

right now ford rules the roost as far as cheap speed goes. the EVO may have a chance but it's still a 4cyl and doesnt have the wide range of power and torque that the V8's and stronger V6's have. for the money its a great car, but for 30,000, i'd rather have a mustang GT with 430hp (412hp is the underrated advertised amount)

Now that the Z is in it's 7th generation nissan has finally started to get a bit of a grip on the performance thing. they nailed it with the twin turbo 300zx THAT engine is near bulletproof with examples being taken up to 750hp that are daily driven on the stock internals. but the current Z still has some issues which need addressing

no rear wiper
no turbos
ice-mode
no rear camera
and AGAIN with the freaking transmissions. then again nissan has never had a great transmission... there's always been some issue with the slave cylinder or the synchros or somthing in the performance cars. save the R35 GTR, the Z32, and the last gen GTR's as far as i know. Z32's, R32's and R33's had issues with the 4th and 5th gear synchros but it was later addressed with the Z32's 1998 transmission.

anyways the Z34 is a much better car then the Gen coupe, both in performance, looks and modability. the Z has and will always be a cult favorite, and performance benchmark and bargain. for the money right now there is no other FR car that can match it's all around performance. yes the camaro and GT are faster in a straight line but the Z is better in all the other aspects.

however for the money if you dont have the extra 10grand to spend on a Z the Gen coupe is great for what it is, a bargain sporty car.

butt if you have the 30k to 35k to spend on a Z or Gen coupe, i'd rather get a Supra, or an NSx, or a 300zx or a 350z and dump 20g's into it.

daisuke149 · 09-26-2010, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supergoji

alrighhhht.

first off a well driven 350z is a low to mid 13 second car.

next a Genesis coupe is not 90% of a G37. that we all know. but it's close as far as luxury and standard features go.

the genesis coupe is an ok car, but it needs a couple more generations till becomes a great car. with the proper body mods it looks great, it sounds great, and im sure with the proper suspension mods it handles great too. but out of the factory it needs work.

and the engine in the genesis is FAR from bulletproof, hyundai shot themselves in the foot when they decided to use a watered down version of the 4B11, instead of using the lancer evo's engine. they should have also given it better gearing. which we all know helps.

right now ford rules the roost as far as cheap speed goes. the EVO may have a chance but it's still a 4cyl and doesnt have the wide range of power and torque that the V8's and stronger V6's have. for the money its a great car, but for 30,000, i'd rather have a mustang GT with 430hp (412hp is the underrated advertised amount)

Now that the Z is in it's 7th generation nissan has finally started to get a bit of a grip on the performance thing. they nailed it with the twin turbo 300zx THAT engine is near bulletproof with examples being taken up to 750hp that are daily driven on the stock internals. but the current Z still has some issues which need addressing

no rear wiper
no turbos
ice-mode
no rear camera
and AGAIN with the freaking transmissions. then again nissan has never had a great transmission... there's always been some issue with the slave cylinder or the synchros or somthing in the performance cars. save the R35 GTR, the Z32, and the last gen GTR's as far as i know. Z32's, R32's and R33's had issues with the 4th and 5th gear synchros but it was later addressed with the Z32's 1998 transmission.

anyways the Z34 is a much better car then the Gen coupe, both in performance, looks and modability. the Z has and will always be a cult favorite, and performance benchmark and bargain. for the money right now there is no other FR car that can match it's all around performance. yes the camaro and GT are faster in a straight line but the Z is better in all the other aspects.

however for the money if you dont have the extra 10grand to spend on a Z the Gen coupe is great for what it is, a bargain sporty car.

butt if you have the 30k to 35k to spend on a Z or Gen coupe, i'd rather get a Supra, or an NSx, or a 300zx or a 350z and dump 20g's into it.

I dont think no rear wiper is an issue. I dont like them
You only need turbo's when you dont have enough performance so thats not really an "issue" thats like saying the z06 not having turbo's is a problem.
No rear camera again isnt an issue...

Issues are the CSC, no oil cooler..

PapoZalsa · 09-27-2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149

I dont think no rear wiper is an issue. I dont like them
You only need turbo's when you dont have enough performance so thats not really an "issue" thats like saying the z06 not having turbo's is a problem.
No rear camera again isnt an issue...

Issues are the CSC, no oil cooler..

The rear wiper is not needed! Looks ugly anyway.

The Z is a sport car, not a luxury car for a camera!

The turbos would brought the price up! I'm in the middle in this one...

The only issue is the oil cooler and oil consumption for some owners.

Other than that the Z is a SPORT CAR at a good price!

280z/300zx · 09-27-2010, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supergoji

alrighhhht.

first off a well driven 350z is a low to mid 13 second car.

Lets make this a bit more clear. The 07-08 350z that has the HR motor is a mid to low 13 sec car. The 03-06 350z is a low 14 to high 13 sec car. Big difference between the two groups.

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Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 257	alrighhhht. first off a well driven 350z is a low to mid 13 second car. next a Genesis coupe is not 90% of a G37. that we all know. but it's close as far as luxury and standard features go. the genesis coupe is an ok car, but it needs a couple more generations till becomes a great car. with the proper body mods it looks great, it sounds great, and im sure with the proper suspension mods it handles great too. but out of the factory it needs work. and the engine in the genesis is FAR from bulletproof, hyundai shot themselves in the foot when they decided to use a watered down version of the 4B11, instead of using the lancer evo's engine. they should have also given it better gearing. which we all know helps. right now ford rules the roost as far as cheap speed goes. the EVO may have a chance but it's still a 4cyl and doesnt have the wide range of power and torque that the V8's and stronger V6's have. for the money its a great car, but for 30,000, i'd rather have a mustang GT with 430hp (412hp is the underrated advertised amount) Now that the Z is in it's 7th generation nissan has finally started to get a bit of a grip on the performance thing. they nailed it with the twin turbo 300zx THAT engine is near bulletproof with examples being taken up to 750hp that are daily driven on the stock internals. but the current Z still has some issues which need addressing no rear wiper no turbos ice-mode no rear camera and AGAIN with the freaking transmissions. then again nissan has never had a great transmission... there's always been some issue with the slave cylinder or the synchros or somthing in the performance cars. save the R35 GTR, the Z32, and the last gen GTR's as far as i know. Z32's, R32's and R33's had issues with the 4th and 5th gear synchros but it was later addressed with the Z32's 1998 transmission. anyways the Z34 is a much better car then the Gen coupe, both in performance, looks and modability. the Z has and will always be a cult favorite, and performance benchmark and bargain. for the money right now there is no other FR car that can match it's all around performance. yes the camaro and GT are faster in a straight line but the Z is better in all the other aspects. however for the money if you dont have the extra 10grand to spend on a Z the Gen coupe is great for what it is, a bargain sporty car. butt if you have the 30k to 35k to spend on a Z or Gen coupe, i'd rather get a Supra, or an NSx, or a 300zx or a 350z and dump 20g's into it. Last edited by Supergoji; 09-26-2010 at 10:24 PM.

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