Z vs Gen.

theDreamer

All of which you listed is only on par with the G37.
How do you define bulletproof? Does someone have over 100k miles on the car yet? Are there forced induction builds with over 50k miles on the car after the forced induction? How well does the car respond to upgrades (basic bolt ons & forced induction), what level can one reach before major upgrades are needed for the internals of the engine?

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matt@qc

I'm unsure this actually applies to any type of valuable comparaison. Stock vs Modded becomes obsolete and is barely of any value to 98% of the buyer's market, the later 2% being diehard enthusiasts.

In any case, what I listed were not advantages over the G37, as you said, it is on par, and on certain features slightly under, that's the 90% as stated earlier.

The car has barely been released for a year now, and FI options are becoming slowly available for the 3.8. Most of the aftermarket focus is on the 2.0T, it is considered the "tuner" platform. If you follow AutoBlog.com, ARK is going to release, in partnership with Hyundai, a supercharge option that can take the car up to 600hp with internal upgrades.

The stock internals are said to be safe for up to 400whp, though no one has confirmed. RMR never came through with their turbo kits which supposedly ran close to 450whp and 570wtq with new cams and stock internals.

The 3.8 responds very well to bolt-ons, being a heavily undertuned engine from the factory to comply with its 87 octane usage and extremely long warranty. 300whp is attainable with CAI, cat-back and a tune as demonstrated on the INJEN car. These cars dyno 250/260 whp in stock trim. CP-E long tube headers have dyno'ed at 14whp over stock without a tune.

I'd like to restate F/I'ing a N/A vehicle is stepping into a world of nightmares and unpredictable costs and if that really is your plan, you're better off with a Mustang. Fortunately we have the 2.0T for that, though it is no where close to the Evo X engine in terms of potential.

Mercennarius

And G37s dyno 275-280+WHP bone stock and weigh nearly the same as the Gen 3.8 Coupe. With basic bolt ons G37/370Zs are easily 300+WHP.

Maybe for a Hyundai. People have been boosting NA cars for DECADES with success. Most of Nissans engines are built pretty strong and can take boost no problem if tuned correctly. People have already made 600++WHP on bone stock internal VQ37s.


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Stock VQ37 dyno vs the same engine with GTMs Twin-Turbo setup:


^ That car was on 91 octane and bone stock internals and stock cams.

And whats a full bolt on and tune 2.0T make? Stock 3.8 power?