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shadoquad 10-03-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by I want a Z (Post 748533)
Just test drove a 3.8 Tack this weekend. I went in not expecting to like it, thinking it wouild be under powered and not fun to drive. Boy was I wrong, I actually really liked the Gen Coupe. I also tested the G37 but found the seats very uncomfortable, the bottom bolstering just hit me in the wrong spots and I am not a big guy.
The price is great but not a real factor in my decisions, I can afford an M3, G37 what ever - but I do consider the value/price ratio.
I am just looking for something that I like.

I have been testing a bunch of cars current short list is
370Z, 335IS/M3 (That's a whole different discussion there), Mustang 5.0, Gen Coupe.

tested and didn't make the short list: Audi TT, Lexus 350IS, G37 (actually loved everything about this car but could never live with the seats)

Anything I am missing that I should drive?

That's a pretty good list. Of course, I don't know all your deciding factors, but Porsche Boxster/Cayman, Mazda RX-8, and maybe a Vette or slightly used 911 come to mind. If you have reasons for not being interested in those, that's cool, too. And of course, when you mention the Mustang, you can take the pepsi challenge with the Camaro and/or Challenger, but I have a feeling the Stang's at the top of that class.

Lemers 10-03-2010 12:07 PM

With the Z, camaro, 11 Mustang the Gen Coupe just comes up too little too late. Maybe in a few years they'll consider future competition and not current competition.

In the world of sports car and coupes the game is not won be keeping up with the Joneses but beating them into submission.

I want a Z 10-04-2010 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 748537)
That's a pretty good list. Of course, I don't know all your deciding factors, but Porsche Boxster/Cayman, Mazda RX-8, and maybe a Vette or slightly used 911 come to mind. If you have reasons for not being interested in those, that's cool, too. And of course, when you mention the Mustang, you can take the pepsi challenge with the Camaro and/or Challenger, but I have a feeling the Stang's at the top of that class.

Sat in a Cayman this weekend, I was not inspired to take it for a drive, could see picking that over the Z
RX-8, no desire to even look at it.
Vette - love them but I am not going to buy a GM or Chrysler product.
Camaro/Challenger - do nothing for me either & see above

DIGItonium 10-04-2010 08:10 AM

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^ How about a used NSX? That's what I would like to have if it weren't for the Z heh.
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I want a Z 10-04-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 749701)
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^ How about a used NSX? That's what I would like to have if it weren't for the Z heh.
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I have always liked those
Wonder what maintenance is like on them

wilsonp 10-04-2010 09:43 AM

Mostly it is like a Honda but expensive at the dealer. Lots of info at NSX Prime so you can see what you are getting into. Of course, there is always the occasional lemon - I spent $4k - $9k a year keeping mine running, counting OEM tires but mostly new parts at the dealer.

UNKNOWN_370 10-04-2010 10:27 AM

I tested the gencoupe. And there are a few things I like about it over the G37. The gencoupe definately feels more tossable than the G, though the G is more precise. I'm comfy in G seats but I'm 6ft and 170lean pounds. If ur a wide dude, those seats just don't cut it. The gencoupe seat design is leagues better than most sport coupes out there. I gotta give hyundai that much. If they switched to some kind of dual clutch tranny? I think the winner of the affordable sports cars would be the gencoupe. I'm just being honest.
But, where I find flaws is in overall interior quality (though not bad, I'm used to infinit quality), the plain grille and the 6at is not geared well for a sports car. I actually needed a auto so I had to go with the most aggressive auto out there.
I tested a lot of automatic sports cars... corvette and camaro are pretty good though not the best trannies. 2011 bmw 135I 7dct is sick with it. I think it rivals the Z in fun factor. Only thing is that electronic lsd sucks. Bmw has an aftermarket covered physical LSD, but, you looking at $5,000 installed. BMW quality aftermarket parts are thru the roof and this is my main reason for not liking bimmer. I can get cheaper quality parts for a porsche. That doesn't make sense to me.

I haven't driven it yet but I would luv to test drive a porsche cayman pdk. I have driven the tiptronic. The Z's tranny feels more aggressive than the tip but I bet the pdk takes it to new levels. That will be my next test.

Red370 10-04-2010 10:39 AM

im still wondering how the genesis keeps somehow getting compared to the Z and other cars that are clearly beyond its class... they're cheap, underpowered, look like an updated Tiburon, no technological advances to speak of, and weigh more than Shumbys girlfriend. Lets stop the comparos yeah?

Lug 10-04-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by I want a Z (Post 749706)
I have always liked those
Wonder what maintenance is like on them

Fiend of mine had one and the clutch pad was $3000. That's not to install, just the price of the part.

chuckd05 10-04-2010 10:42 AM

a 2.0t gen coupe could become a nasty beast if the right things are done... ive seen one with over 400 whp already with about 4k into it.

I want a Z 10-04-2010 10:43 AM

I was very unimpressed with the cayman cabin - I didn't drive it because I could not imagine spending any time in there over the Z

I am not a big guy at all but the bottom seat bolsters on the G37 were way uncomfortable.

I drove the BMW 335IS and the DCT awesome but not sure if it is awesome enough to warrant spending twice as much as the Gen Coupe.

Side by side comparisons the Gen Coupe looses in a few categories, but what I need to ask myself is once you drive it off the lot and you are finished with the side by side comparisons, is it a good fun car to drive every day. I think the answer may be yes, and that surprises me.

FuszNissan 10-04-2010 10:43 AM

My father-in law has a NSX. And that was the same issue, clutch was crazy expensive, but other than that it's been a great toy for him. He only puts about 1500 miles a year on it, so I guess you have to take that into consideration.

I want a Z 10-04-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 749893)
im still wondering how the genesis keeps somehow getting compared to the Z and other cars that are clearly beyond its class... they're cheap, underpowered, look like an updated Tiburon, no technological advances to speak of, and weigh more than Shumbys girlfriend. Lets stop the comparos yeah?

It's something like 100lbs heavier then the Z with a longer wheelbase and backseats. I would hardly call it heavy.

I can't speak for others, but I am comparing it to the Z because my requirement for a new car is, something comfortable, fast and a fun car to drive and they both fall in that category.

You may one to take one for a drive before you continue to bash it.

Red370 10-04-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by I want a Z (Post 749916)
It's something like 100lbs heavier then the Z with a longer wheelbase and backseats. I would hardly call it heavy.

I can't speak for others, but I am comparing it to the Z because my requirement for a new car is, something comfortable, fast and a fun car to drive and they both fall in that category.

You may one to take one for a drive before you continue to bash it.

I've had a 370 and now drive a 5.0, I think i'll pass on that Hyundai trash:ugh2:

Red370 10-04-2010 11:01 AM

and as far as the weight is concerned, I was comparing it to the 3.8L, which performance wise, is more on par with the Z.


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