Camaro board "Z only real competitor"

frost · 03-08-2009, 08:39 PM

Since I was talking crap here yesterday about the camaro hurting its sales by taking too long to come out, I got curious and hit the maro board today to see what's up. Ran across a thread where the opinion of the poster what that the Z is the maro's only real competitor:

Only Real Competitor... - Camaro Forum - 2009 Camaro / 2010 Camaro / New Camaro SS Z28 Forums - Camaro5.com

As you can imagine, there are differing opinions.

kustomZ · 03-08-2009, 08:47 PM

Wow, most of those guys are actually mature....I agree with StoutFiles over there...you may not like the competition, but at least be civil about it.

frost · 03-08-2009, 08:49 PM

I rolled my eyes at post #8, when the guy is talking about how he doesnt like the looks of the 370, but uses a pic of the 350.

kustomZ · 03-08-2009, 08:51 PM

I noticed that too. I could stoop to his level and join up to post, "Well you better get used to the rear end, because that's all you'll be seeing." haha, j/k

frost · 03-08-2009, 09:06 PM

I don't necessarily want to start the debate over here, but to think that the two cars won't be cross shopped = retarded.

enenen · 03-08-2009, 09:12 PM

i actually like the new camaro.

but it amazes me that people can compare horsepower as if that equals speed, and completely ignore that fact that their car will be tipping the scales just a hair under 2 tons... if it ever comes out.

edit: and i guess i kinda cross-shopped them. only 2 cars i'm really considering. but the interior on the camaro is garbage imo. worse then the 350, probably more hard plastic. not to mention i felt like i was sitting on the floor, and couldn't see crap over the dash and the hood, and I'm 6 feet tall!!! plus those cars are waaaay too big.

BanningZ · 03-08-2009, 09:19 PM

Overall a pretty civil discussion over there. Then again there are always a few who make statements that ruin it for the rest of them. I thought that mentality of working on Japanese cars being more expensive and difficult than domestics was over. I just finished working on a 3.9 Lincoln LS and let me tell you that I would take a Toyota, Nissan or Honda engine to work on any day, not to mention the ridiculous cost of for new domestic parts when you get about the 30K range.

Quote:

Sounds like you just want the Nissan for the "it" factor.

Yawn... boring. Chix are not gonna give a crap how fast it is just that the Camaro looks a hell of a lot better than that VW beetle looking POS Nissan.

As a former 300 ZX owner I am entitled to bitch about Nissan. Like I said try working on it after your warranty expires. It will cost you a lot more in TCO in the long run cause parts and service gonna be more $$$ than the Camaro.

^Statements like this just make me shake my head. VW beetle POS Nissan???

frost · 03-08-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanningZ

Overall a pretty civil discussion over there.

Other than what the mod had to delete

Endgame · 03-08-2009, 10:12 PM

SOME of the guys there are sensible. But, you can obviously tell the difference is the hard core fans. The hard core Camaro fans obviously are interested in straight line/stop light to stop light racing. They admit that the Z will probally best the Maro in the curves.

The only problem I see is that there will be more than a few Maro/muscle car owners
street racing. That scares me as this could cause many accidents.

I for one think the Maro is a VERY cool car; the Z28, if made will be outstanding!! But, I do not need four seats for my fun car, and I just like the Z's handling ability and true sport car'ness more than the muscle car. It is quite clear that while the Z is not a light car like the Audi TT RS, Cayman, any RX car, it is lighter than the muscle car competition. And, it has a nice torque band as the American cars do (just not as much torque; enough to keep you from spining the wheels and burning rubber). Lastly, it is not as expensive as the Audi, BMW, Porsche competion. The Z is, IMO, the perfect compromise and right up my alley.

If I see Camaro owners or even new Stang/Challenger owners on the road... I will give them a thumbs up. If they are acting like imature street racers, I will ignore them. EVERY car has it's positives and drawbacks. We all will choose the postives we want, and the drawbacks we can live with. That said... Make mine a Z!!

Arcangel · 03-08-2009, 10:48 PM

Hey guys that was me LOL Same Arcangel!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

frost · 03-08-2009, 10:51 PM

See, cross shopping does exist!

Arcangel · 03-08-2009, 10:52 PM

yes it does LOL Im famous your quoting my posts here !!

BanningZ · 03-08-2009, 11:19 PM

Okay I was wrong, I read beyond just the first page and I was reminded that I hate humanity.

nogoodname · 03-08-2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcangel

yes it does LOL Im famous your quoting my posts here !!

i was just about to say that i think it's the same person on this forum....lol

Arcangel · 03-08-2009, 11:22 PM

hey banning it gets way better in page three and beyond some of the guys who are on my side chime in ! Thats right I love both of these cars and these two forums one of these cars will win my money. Right now im leaning one way its a secret

03-08-2009, 08:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	Camaro board "Z only real competitor" Since I was talking crap here yesterday about the camaro hurting its sales by taking too long to come out, I got curious and hit the maro board today to see what's up. Ran across a thread where the opinion of the poster what that the Z is the maro's only real competitor: Only Real Competitor... - Camaro Forum - 2009 Camaro / 2010 Camaro / New Camaro SS Z28 Forums - Camaro5.com As you can imagine, there are differing opinions.

03-08-2009, 08:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
kustomZ Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 112 Drives: TBD Rep Power: 256	Wow, most of those guys are actually mature....I agree with StoutFiles over there...you may not like the competition, but at least be civil about it. __________________

03-08-2009, 08:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
kustomZ Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 112 Drives: TBD Rep Power: 256	I noticed that too. I could stoop to his level and join up to post, "Well you better get used to the rear end, because that's all you'll be seeing." haha, j/k __________________

03-08-2009, 09:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
enenen Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 30 Drives: 06 Nissan Frontier Rep Power: 16	i actually like the new camaro. but it amazes me that people can compare horsepower as if that equals speed, and completely ignore that fact that their car will be tipping the scales just a hair under 2 tons... if it ever comes out. edit: and i guess i kinda cross-shopped them. only 2 cars i'm really considering. but the interior on the camaro is garbage imo. worse then the 350, probably more hard plastic. not to mention i felt like i was sitting on the floor, and couldn't see crap over the dash and the hood, and I'm 6 feet tall!!! plus those cars are waaaay too big. Last edited by enenen; 03-08-2009 at 09:15 PM.

03-08-2009, 10:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Arcangel Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manalapan NJ Posts: 98 Drives: Blk 07 Cobalt SS/SC Rep Power: 188	Hey guys that was me LOL Same Arcangel!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL __________________ God has given us two hands -- one to receive with, and the other to give with. We are not cisterns made for hoarding; we are channels made for sharing.

03-08-2009, 08:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	I rolled my eyes at post #8, when the guy is talking about how he doesnt like the looks of the 370, but uses a pic of the 350.

03-08-2009, 09:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	I don't necessarily want to start the debate over here, but to think that the two cars won't be cross shopped = retarded.

03-08-2009, 10:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	SOME of the guys there are sensible. But, you can obviously tell the difference is the hard core fans. The hard core Camaro fans obviously are interested in straight line/stop light to stop light racing. They admit that the Z will probally best the Maro in the curves. The only problem I see is that there will be more than a few Maro/muscle car owners street racing. That scares me as this could cause many accidents. I for one think the Maro is a VERY cool car; the Z28, if made will be outstanding!! But, I do not need four seats for my fun car, and I just like the Z's handling ability and true sport car'ness more than the muscle car. It is quite clear that while the Z is not a light car like the Audi TT RS, Cayman, any RX car, it is lighter than the muscle car competition. And, it has a nice torque band as the American cars do (just not as much torque; enough to keep you from spining the wheels and burning rubber). Lastly, it is not as expensive as the Audi, BMW, Porsche competion. The Z is, IMO, the perfect compromise and right up my alley. If I see Camaro owners or even new Stang/Challenger owners on the road... I will give them a thumbs up. If they are acting like imature street racers, I will ignore them. EVERY car has it's positives and drawbacks. We all will choose the postives we want, and the drawbacks we can live with. That said... Make mine a Z!!

03-08-2009, 10:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	See, cross shopping does exist!

03-08-2009, 10:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
Arcangel Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manalapan NJ Posts: 98 Drives: Blk 07 Cobalt SS/SC Rep Power: 188	yes it does LOL Im famous your quoting my posts here !! __________________ God has given us two hands -- one to receive with, and the other to give with. We are not cisterns made for hoarding; we are channels made for sharing.

03-08-2009, 11:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	Okay I was wrong, I read beyond just the first page and I was reminded that I hate humanity. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

03-08-2009, 11:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
Arcangel Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manalapan NJ Posts: 98 Drives: Blk 07 Cobalt SS/SC Rep Power: 188	hey banning it gets way better in page three and beyond some of the guys who are on my side chime in ! Thats right I love both of these cars and these two forums one of these cars will win my money. Right now im leaning one way its a secret __________________ God has given us two hands -- one to receive with, and the other to give with. We are not cisterns made for hoarding; we are channels made for sharing.

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