Camaro board "Z only real competitor"
 

Since I was talking crap here yesterday about the camaro hurting its sales by taking too long to come out, I got curious and hit the maro board today to see what's up. Ran across a thread where the opinion of the poster what that the Z is the maro's only real competitor:

Only Real Competitor... - Camaro Forum - 2009 Camaro / 2010 Camaro / New Camaro SS Z28 Forums - Camaro5.com

As you can imagine, there are differing opinions. ;):rolleyes:

Wow, most of those guys are actually mature....I agree with StoutFiles over there...you may not like the competition, but at least be civil about it.

I rolled my eyes at post #8, when the guy is talking about how he doesnt like the looks of the 370, but uses a pic of the 350.

I noticed that too. I could stoop to his level and join up to post, "Well you better get used to the rear end, because that's all you'll be seeing." haha, j/k

I don't necessarily want to start the debate over here, but to think that the two cars won't be cross shopped = retarded.

i actually like the new camaro.

but it amazes me that people can compare horsepower as if that equals speed, and completely ignore that fact that their car will be tipping the scales just a hair under 2 tons... if it ever comes out.

edit: and i guess i kinda cross-shopped them. only 2 cars i'm really considering. but the interior on the camaro is garbage imo. worse then the 350, probably more hard plastic. not to mention i felt like i was sitting on the floor, and couldn't see crap over the dash and the hood, and I'm 6 feet tall!!! plus those cars are waaaay too big.

Overall a pretty civil discussion over there. Then again there are always a few who make statements that ruin it for the rest of them. I thought that mentality of working on Japanese cars being more expensive and difficult than domestics was over. I just finished working on a 3.9 Lincoln LS and let me tell you that I would take a Toyota, Nissan or Honda engine to work on any day, not to mention the ridiculous cost of for new domestic parts when you get about the 30K range.



^Statements like this just make me shake my head. VW beetle POS Nissan???http://www.camaro5.com/forums/images/smilies/iono.gif

Other than what the mod had to delete :icon17:

SOME of the guys there are sensible. But, you can obviously tell the difference is the hard core fans. The hard core Camaro fans obviously are interested in straight line/stop light to stop light racing. They admit that the Z will probally best the Maro in the curves.

The only problem I see is that there will be more than a few Maro/muscle car owners
street racing. That scares me as this could cause many accidents.

I for one think the Maro is a VERY cool car; the Z28, if made will be outstanding!! But, I do not need four seats for my fun car, and I just like the Z's handling ability and true sport car'ness more than the muscle car. It is quite clear that while the Z is not a light car like the Audi TT RS, Cayman, any RX car, it is lighter than the muscle car competition. And, it has a nice torque band as the American cars do (just not as much torque; enough to keep you from spining the wheels and burning rubber). Lastly, it is not as expensive as the Audi, BMW, Porsche competion. The Z is, IMO, the perfect compromise and right up my alley.

If I see Camaro owners or even new Stang/Challenger owners on the road... I will give them a thumbs up. If they are acting like imature street racers, I will ignore them. EVERY car has it's positives and drawbacks. We all will choose the postives we want, and the drawbacks we can live with. That said... Make mine a Z!!

Hey guys that was me LOL Same Arcangel!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

See, cross shopping does exist!

yes it does LOL Im famous your quoting my posts here !!

Okay I was wrong, I read beyond just the first page and I was reminded that I hate humanity.

i was just about to say that i think it's the same person on this forum....lol

hey banning it gets way better in page three and beyond some of the guys who are on my side chime in ! Thats right I love both of these cars and these two forums one of these cars will win my money. Right now im leaning one way its a secret

For some reason, a few posts get off on a tangent about the genesis. Mod should have deleted those :D

yea I totally agree about those posts lol

I've owned a mustang and a camaro and I'm now driving my first Z. I wouldn't compare my specific 3 cars directly because they're each from a different era ('66 mustang, 2001 camaro and 2009 370) but I'd consider them competitors.

Gabriel77 def on the money the Z the Camaro and to a lesser extent lol JK the mustang are absolutely competitors

1/4 mile times. Ugh. Straight lines are fun! :ugh2:

With the weight, HP, looks and interior of the Z, it pulled me away from the 2010 Camaro. I was seriously considering it too, but I've done my research, made up my mind, and wouldn't want to wait all that time only to have them delayed again or have GM loose support of it due to failing company profits after I bought the car.

This is BS right? somebody please confirm.

Until any Official word everything is speculation...

I had always planned to get a new muscle car after this deployment, and had originally settled on the challenger...after some time and a lot of research i began to think twice, then came the possibility of the camaro...i was very interested in the prospect of owning a new shark...so i researched it to death as i always do...and i wasnt happy with the interior either...

I didnt even know the 370zs exsisted until January of this year...the first time i had even seen a picture of one was on msn.com...well needless to say that was all it took...finally leading me to the point i am at right now (ordered and patiently awaiting)

i have always liked the 240, 260, and especially the 280zs...so naturally when i saw the 370z it truelly harkened me to my days of youth when i would see my high school friends driving 260s, and 280s, as well as the old faithfuls, stangs, and camaros...

i really like the 370z in everyway...and believe it will be a great car for a daily driver...sadly though I WILL miss my mach1...

DING! WINNER!!! Found this post on the first page!

As a closet Ford fan I'm more concerned with how the Camaro matches up against the Terminators, which in my eyes, is still the king of the modern muscle cars. High 12 1/4 miles. 4.6s to 60? I'm not sure any of the new muscle cars have matched that. The SS should and considering its four door counterpart hits 60 in 4.5 seconds, (according to Motor Trend) I would put money on the SS being faster. I doubt the 370 can hang, even with a list of bolt ons. I'm really hankering for an all out muscle car battle. 03/04 SVT Cobra vs. LS2 GTO vs. 02 WS6/SS vs. Challenger SRT8 vs. New SS vs. GT500. That's all over the board I know, but just imagine the sight...

At the drag strip the Z fits in right behind the LS1's. The cars may all be loosely cross shopped but if straight line speed was all that mattered who would have a Z? Maybe I'll put my foot in my mouth when the Camaro hits dealers, but there's not a car up there that won't be a few car lengths back after a few corners. But just given the initial price of the SS, it has to be considered. Anyone into speed, straight or otherwise, should be interested.

BrokenVow, I agree with you. The Maro matches up more with the Terminators to me; I said this in another thread some time back. My bet is the Maro puts down similar numbers on the strip and MAYBE a bit better than the Terminators on the road course.

I LOVED the Terminators!

Tis is why I'm a member of both forums LOL

I am a member over there too. And I was cross shopping the Camarao, C6, Genesis Coupe, new Mustang and RX8.

In the end I am impatient and bought the Z. If GM survives I will definitely look at the Camaro in a few years as a replacement for the Z.

VWvortex Forums: Lot full of Camaros
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....09/03/lot3.jpg

Thems alot of Camaros LOL

The unpainted fins look stupid! IMO .

I can't believe they didn't paint the fins btw.

I gotta agree and so does the majority of Camaro5 its a dumb move

That there IS a sea of Sharks! lol

GM never paints the antennas. They like the XM logo plastered EVERYWHERE! LOL

Every GM car and truck with any sort of satellite antenna is black with the XM logo on it.

Just something you will have to rip off when they go bankrupt :rofl2:

Ya know I'm thinking Nissan went bankrupt then merged with renault and came back kickin *** and takin names. Do you guys think similar will happen to GM in the inevitable Chapter 11

Since I think we discussed this in length in another thread, I'll keep it short: I think bankruptcy would be the best thing for them.

OHH really could you point me to it I would like to read it, and by the way I agree whole heartedly

These are three I would check out. The last one is general politics, but I'm sure the car topic was discussed:

http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...ails-hard.html

http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...ore-loans.html

http://www.the370z.com/politics-war/1147-economy.html