Explain these numbers: Carrera S vs 370Z

Zsteve · 09-13-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by klubbheads

With only 1300 miles on my Z i did 13.8 @ 103mph with 2.56 6ft time and hitting the rev lmiter on 2nd gear with 1500 DA that day/time. This concludes that the numbers for Z are bogus. Just lower the 60ft time to 1.90-2.09 and you got 108mph trap speed and high 13.00 and even high 12 run....

The reality is the cayman and the Z have similar numbers all across the board.....

Not sure if this thread needs more discussion.

I think what you are failing to see is, if the Z numbers are wrong then the porsche numbers are probably wrong too. So do the same for the other cars too and its still the same result.

wilsonp · 09-13-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by klubbheads

With only 1300 miles on my Z i did 13.8 @ 103mph with 2.56 6ft time and hitting the rev lmiter on 2nd gear with 1500 DA that day/time. This concludes that the numbers for Z are bogus. Just lower the 60ft time to 1.90-2.09 and you got 108mph trap speed and high 13.00 and even high 12 run....

The reality is the cayman and the Z have similar numbers all across the board.....

Not sure if this thread needs more discussion.

When you have a high 12 timeslip, you might be right. Until then, documented runs say the 370Z auto is faster than the Cayman S

dad · 09-13-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by daleks

No.

Care to explain?

370Zsteve · 09-13-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

But the p-car does everything well. It's really hard to explain how the car feels, but in the end, people buying these cars aren't buying it for the performance numbers. They're buying it for that key ingredient that most manufacturers still haven't figured out.

Well some of them are. And a percentage also buy it for the logo.

daleks · 09-13-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

Care to explain?

"Their GT cars, or Sports cars, not dragsters!"

This may also be read as: They are GT cars, or sports cars, not dragsters!

Perhaps you meant: Their cars are GT cars, or Sports cars, not dragsters!

This is the370z.com though not theGrammarZone.com so I'll just be quite.

370Zsteve · 09-13-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by daleks

This is the370z.com though not theGrammarZone.com so I'll just be quite.

please tell me that's a typo

Cell · 09-13-2010, 10:20 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I cannot justify the price of a Porsche. 99% of them are built the same way most cars are which is through a mass production line. Depending on what body panels and parts go on it, it determines whether it turns into a convertible or not or etc...

The only thing you pay for with the increased price is better materials and for the name.

Porsches are just like Apple Iphones, they are over priced for what you get. There are tons of other phones out there that has similar features for less.

It would be different for me if I was filthy rich. If I was rich then I wouldn't mind buying a Porsche.

daleks · 09-13-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

please tell me that's a typo

It was a joke...

spearfish25 · 09-13-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

I don't know about you guys, but I cannot justify the price of a Porsche. 99% of them are built the same way most cars are which is through a mass production line. Depending on what body panels and parts go on it, it determines whether it turns into a convertible or not or etc...

The only thing you pay for with the increased price is better materials and for the name.

Porsches are just like Apple Iphones, they are over priced for what you get. There are tons of other phones out there that has similar features for less.

It would be different for me if I was filthy rich. If I was rich then I wouldn't mind buying a Porsche.

If the iPhone analogy holds for the Porsche, I'm buying a Porsche. Other phones have similar features but none integrate them as seamlessly and have the aesthetic appeal as the iPhone. Porsche is probably the same.

Cell · 09-13-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

If the iPhone analogy holds for the Porsche, I'm buying a Porsche. Other phones have similar features but none integrate them as seamlessly and have the aesthetic appeal as the iPhone. Porsche is probably the same.

I don't know about that. I have bought 2 iphones and yet I am still more pleased with the features on an android phone then any iphone I have ever touched.

If I can afford a 100k Porsche, I would take a ZR-1 over a 100k Porsche.

Cmike2780 · 09-13-2010, 11:03 PM

The Porsche design may be a little lazy, but you can't deny the heritage behind the badge. As much as I like all things Nissan, you can't help but respect what the Porsche brand has done for sports cars in general. Competition leads to better, faster cars. Having the Z come within reach of its Porsche counterparts is a milestone considering its nearly half the cost to purchase & maintain.

Zsteve · 09-13-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

I don't know about you guys, but I cannot justify the price of a Porsche. 99% of them are built the same way most cars are which is through a mass production line. Depending on what body panels and parts go on it, it determines whether it turns into a convertible or not or etc...

The only thing you pay for with the increased price is better materials and for the name.

Porsches are just like Apple Iphones, they are over priced for what you get. There are tons of other phones out there that has similar features for less.

It would be different for me if I was filthy rich. If I was rich then I wouldn't mind buying a Porsche.

and a prius owner can say the same thing, they are all made the same so why pay more money for the Z. You still dont get the concept of having alot of money and nothing to spend it on I think.

Lets look at it this way: A guy buys a porsche over a 370z for the same reason a guy buys a 370Z over a honda civic. Style points.

Cell · 09-14-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

and a prius owner can say the same thing, they are all made the same so why pay more money for the Z. You still dont get the concept of having alot of money and nothing to spend it on I think.

Lets look at it this way: A guy buys a porsche over a 370z for the same reason a guy buys a 370Z over a honda civic. Style points.

If you read my last comment then you can see I do understand what you are saying. Prius is far from a sports car. If I wanted to go green then a prius would be one of the options. But it isn't. Sports car for sports car, If I had the money for a porsche, I would buy a corvette over a porsche. If I only had two options between the prius and the porsche, of course I would take a porsche.

My point is that some of you guys make it sound like the fit and finish is 10 times better than a 370z. To me I the 370z's fit and finish is pretty good as it is. The difference is just the materials. A porsche just has a better feel on everything. That is only one of the reasons why it costs more.

m4a1mustang · 09-14-2010, 12:21 AM

Buy whatever makes you happy and whatever you think is the best value for your situation.

Zsteve · 09-14-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Buy whatever makes you happy and whatever you think is the best value for your situation.

except for mustangs, they are in the same group as Prius. JK stang.

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Cell A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,449 Drives: A Garbage Truck Rep Power: 21	I don't know about you guys, but I cannot justify the price of a Porsche. 99% of them are built the same way most cars are which is through a mass production line. Depending on what body panels and parts go on it, it determines whether it turns into a convertible or not or etc... The only thing you pay for with the increased price is better materials and for the name. Porsches are just like Apple Iphones, they are over priced for what you get. There are tons of other phones out there that has similar features for less. It would be different for me if I was filthy rich. If I was rich then I wouldn't mind buying a Porsche.