Explain these numbers: Carrera S vs 370Z

m4a1mustang · 09-14-2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

except for mustangs, they are in the same group as Prius. JK stang.

I agree. The gas mileage is very close.

Zsteve · 09-14-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I agree. The gas mileage is very close.

I would have thought with the Prius being faster than the new stangs they would be worse in the MPG area. LOL.

m4a1mustang · 09-14-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I would have thought with the Prius being faster than the new stangs they would be worse in the MPG area. LOL.

Zsteve · 09-14-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

So how does the power feel to the Z?

m4a1mustang · 09-14-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

So how does the power feel to the Z?

check your PMs...

Zsteve · 09-14-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

check your PMs...

didnt get any

m4a1mustang · 09-14-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

didnt get any

patience, grasshoppa!

chuckd05 · 09-14-2010, 01:06 AM

I ran a 12.9. After mods our car is right there. What this means is put Joe blow Carrera S or caymen S driver on the line next to me at the track and I could beat them. Our car is right there..

Mine is a manual as well.

12.6 was done with my mods plus gears and long tubes . The Z does not disapoint. I'm guessing we will see better times as weather cools . We need more 12 sec Z's!

optiontrader · 09-14-2010, 01:44 AM

I test drove an '06 Cayman S (along with a G37S coupe, 335i coupe, and a Prius [JK!]) before I settled on a Z. The Porsche is an AMAZING car - it's almost difficult to put into words. From the sitting position, feel of the shifter, to the way it "snakes" around curves, up to that phenomenal sound of that engine just behind your head.

Unfortunately, it was used, had 30k miles, and was still stickering at $45k. It also had a lovely "air freshener" smell which likened it to a rental inside.

BUT IT'S SPECTACULAR.

We buy our Z's since that would be the best financial sense for us. I can't afford a new Cayman S; and most Porsche customers who usually dole out cash or hefty down payments for their cars, don't even consider a Z.

Yes there are comparisons, but we've got two completely different classes of cars here. The Z is plenty fun; and if I had the money (we're putting a downpayment on a house), I would've gotten a newer Cayman S instead of the Z.

But hey, getting a house AND a Z-car. Win-Win, in my book. :TU:

onekneedown · 09-14-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

I love how women are objectified as prizes to be won when you drive up in a car. Car forums are literally the best.

Amen!!!

iwasgointo · 09-14-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

So according to Road and Track, theses are the performance stats for the Carrera S, Cayman S, and 370Z. I have trouble figuring out why the Z is so much slower than the other two, particularly the Carrera S. Aside from the benefit of a rear weight bias for the Carrera giving a quicker 0-60 (better rear traction), the 1/4mi times baffle me. Is the 70lbs and 20hp/25tq that significant? All theories welcome...!

Carrera S
355hp
295tq
wt 3295lbs
0-60 4.1s
0-100 10.3s
60-0 111ft
1/4 12.6@111.9

Cayman S
320hp
273tq
wt 3100lbs
0-60 4.6s
0-100 10.6s
60-0 117ft
1/4 12.9@108.8

370Z
332hp
270tq
wt 3360lbs
0-60 5.2s
0-100 12.8s
60-0 115ft
1/4 13.7@103.9

Porsche is better at getting more power to the wheels. Also, the power figures for the Carrera are pre-PDK, so that can't be the reason.

iwasgointo · 09-14-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cell

I don't know about you guys, but I cannot justify the price of a Porsche. 99% of them are built the same way most cars are which is through a mass production line. Depending on what body panels and parts go on it, it determines whether it turns into a convertible or not or etc...

The only thing you pay for with the increased price is better materials and for the name.

Porsches are just like Apple Iphones, they are over priced for what you get. There are tons of other phones out there that has similar features for less.

It would be different for me if I was filthy rich. If I was rich then I wouldn't mind buying a Porsche.

You don't need to be "filthy rich" to buy the Porsche, just reasonably affluent. Now tell me, what is "filthy" about being rich?

Zaggeron · 09-14-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by iwasgointo

You don't need to be "filthy rich" to buy the Porsche, just reasonably affluent. Now tell me, what is "filthy" about being rich?

My mom told me never put money in my mouth 'cause it's dirty -- being handled by so many people. Very rich people take baths in their money hence "filthy" rich.

Cell · 09-14-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by iwasgointo

You don't need to be "filthy rich" to buy the Porsche, just reasonably affluent. Now tell me, what is "filthy" about being rich?

Zaggeron explained it.

Well maybe not filthy rich to own a low end Porsche but even then, the maintenance itself is over priced. You cannot just consider the price of the car. You have to consider the cost of everything else too. Unless you do it yourself for everything then it may be a bit different.

Zsteve · 09-14-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

My mom told me never put money in my mouth 'cause it's dirty -- being handled by so many people. Very rich people take baths in their money hence "filthy" rich.

09-14-2010, 01:06 AM	#98 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	I ran a 12.9. After mods our car is right there. What this means is put Joe blow Carrera S or caymen S driver on the line next to me at the track and I could beat them. Our car is right there.. Mine is a manual as well. 12.6 was done with my mods plus gears and long tubes . The Z does not disapoint. I'm guessing we will see better times as weather cools . We need more 12 sec Z's! __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 09-14-2010 at 01:10 AM.

09-14-2010, 01:44 AM	#99 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 16	I test drove an '06 Cayman S (along with a G37S coupe, 335i coupe, and a Prius [JK!]) before I settled on a Z. The Porsche is an AMAZING car - it's almost difficult to put into words. From the sitting position, feel of the shifter, to the way it "snakes" around curves, up to that phenomenal sound of that engine just behind your head. Unfortunately, it was used, had 30k miles, and was still stickering at $45k. It also had a lovely "air freshener" smell which likened it to a rental inside. BUT IT'S SPECTACULAR. We buy our Z's since that would be the best financial sense for us. I can't afford a new Cayman S; and most Porsche customers who usually dole out cash or hefty down payments for their cars, don't even consider a Z. Yes there are comparisons, but we've got two completely different classes of cars here. The Z is plenty fun; and if I had the money (we're putting a downpayment on a house), I would've gotten a newer Cayman S instead of the Z. But hey, getting a house AND a Z-car. Win-Win, in my book. :TU: __________________ 40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

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