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Endgame 09-11-2010 11:52 PM

And how many Porsche drivers can hit the numbers posted for them? These mag times are all from professional drivers. I doubt many Porsche drivers can hit the numbers posted for them......

Except for the ones driving the GT3's! Most of the other Porsche owners I know baby their cars, just like many Vette owners.

Although one of my client's father's was tearing up the street in his Cayman S.... It was pretty cool.

KillerBee370 09-12-2010 12:37 AM

Could be a number of factors but for a minimal investment (compared to the cost of a Porsche), you can even up the playing field.

And my car still gets more stares than those two.

christian370z 09-12-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 717512)
Could be a number of factors but for a minimal investment (compared to the cost of a Porsche), you can even up the playing field.

And my car still gets more stares than those two.

Exactly, one big plus for this car. I am all for bang for the buck but there is a lot of potential in these cars with just a few small changes like a set of sway bars, intake, and CBE. Stock for stock is something I don't even think about, I don't leave anything stock anyway!

ProfessorDave 09-12-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 717194)
I'm sorry if you think the Cayman is "just a second quicker" than a 370Z, the interior quality and finish of the Cayman is centuries ahead of that in a Z. The smell of their leather was enough to get my pants wet lol

They also get a PDK gearbox an engine that can be driven all day on the track without going into limp mode. The only advantage the Z has is its price.

I'm not Porsche hating. They are awesome cars. I can't afford one, but I'm not sure I would buy one even if I could. I can't see myself spending $80k+ on any car!

G37Sam 09-12-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 717654)
I'm not Porsche hating. They are awesome cars. I can't afford one, but I'm not sure I would buy one even if I could. I can't see myself spending $80k+ on any car!

But the Porsche isn't just "any car" haha

True, if you're looking for a wallet-friendly car, the Porsche's aren't the route to go, you know how much labor it takes to replace the sparks on those mid-engines?? lol

Zsteve 09-12-2010 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 717515)
Exactly, one big plus for this car. I am all for bang for the buck but there is a lot of potential in these cars with just a few small changes like a set of sway bars, intake, and CBE. Stock for stock is something I don't even think about, I don't leave anything stock anyway!

And if the Porsche driver did the same upgrades he would still beat the Z. And again the Z is not the best bang for the buck if we are talking speed. A base vette is probably the best bang for the buck for speed stock. What you might need to say say is its the best bang for your buck level. The Z is a nice car but I dont have grand illusions that its the mother of all cars, like vette owners think theirs is. And as far as getting looks, is there always a Porsche next to you when someone is looking and that is how you know you get 2X the looks? Go to downtown Miami and see who will get the girl with their car, the Z or the Porsche. Now Nissan did good with the changes they made for the 370Z as its the best looking one so far IMO and best performing.

Zsteve 09-12-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 717654)
I'm not Porsche hating. They are awesome cars. I can't afford one, but I'm not sure I would buy one even if I could. I can't see myself spending $80k+ on any car!

If you were a Millionaire several times over I bet you would spend that much on a car, agains its about what your money level can afford.

UNKNOWN_370 09-12-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 717263)
There not comparing apples to apples.

How about comparing the 370 with any other 2 seat sports car
with a v6 that cost under 40 grand.

The top price for a Z is 47k on the convert. A boxster starts where the Z ends and the cayman is just a few thousand more. Its not a perfect match but an honest comparison,
The flipside is. In spite of the fact. You can get a base Z for thousands less giving u. 2/3 the experience of a porsche. Its still a great car and in the right hands a Z can do the quarter in 13.1 seconds. That's nothin to sneeze at. You can go a lot faster, if you spend the same money and buy a camaro SS or mustang GT, but you lose handling.
The Z has no real comp under 40k anyway. The solstice coupe never happened, plus they were 4 bangers and every other so-called competitor is either a GT or roadster. At the end of the day. Porsche is a semi handbuilt sports car that revoltionizes the sports car arena in some form or fashion every decade. The Z is just trying to mimmick porsche performance at low cost. In my opinion, No Matter What is Said Here In This Thread! Even with all the Z shortfalls, The Z does a pretty good job at showing the lower income crowd how more expensive cars put in work. If you can afford a cayman S and its $200/15,000mi, oil changes. I don't even see why you'd even consider or compare a Z.

ProfessorDave 09-12-2010 09:58 AM

I changed my mind. If I had the $$, I'd get an Audi R8 (and I'd keep my Z). If I had even more $$$, I'd get a Lexus LFA (and would give my Z to one of the kids).

A guy can dream, can't he?!?

cptspeed 09-12-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 717677)
If you were a Millionaire several times over I bet you would spend that much on a car, agains its about what your money level can afford.

I would rather have a car that everyone thinks is slower, and is awed when they find that its not. I also find that its better to have a few different cars than one that I can afford.

Cmike2780 09-12-2010 10:11 AM

This thread is entertaining. Is this comparison based on price, specs? If it's on price, why not compare it to the base cayman or boxter. Spec wise, a mid engine cayman s is gonna have an advantage over a nose heavy Z. The Carrera is a classic and would love to own one someday.

Upgrades will def even if not scramble the playing field. Just look at how the Speedline RX8 managed to take wins from Porsche in the Am Lemans series. It's useless to compare for the sake of this tread because upgrades will vary greatly.

If we're gonna go off topic and include other cars, the GTR smokes all of the above.

cptspeed 09-12-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 717680)
The top price for a Z is 47k on the convert. A boxster starts where the Z ends and the cayman is just a few thousand more. Its not a perfect match but an honest comparison,
The flipside is. In spite of the fact. You can get a base Z for thousands less giving u. 2/3 the experience of a porsche. Its still a great car and in the right hands a Z can do the quarter in 13.1 seconds. That's nothin to sneeze at. You can go a lot faster, if you spend the same money and buy a camaro SS or mustang GT, but you lose handling.
The Z has no real comp under 40k anyway. The solstice coupe never happened, plus they were 4 bangers and every other so-called competitor is either a GT or roadster. At the end of the day. Porsche is a semi handbuilt sports car that revoltionizes the sports car arena in some form or fashion every decade. The Z is just trying to mimmick porsche performance at low cost. In my opinion, No Matter What is Said Here In This Thread! Even with all the Z shortfalls, The Z does a pretty good job at showing the lower income crowd how more expensive cars put in work. If you can afford a cayman S and its $200/15,000mi, oil changes. I don't even see why you'd even consider or compare a Z.


Because the cayman looks generic and I happen to enjoy being able to actually work on my car.

G37Sam 09-12-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 717699)
I would rather have a car that everyone thinks is slower, and is awed when they find that its not. I also find that its better to have a few different cars than one that I can afford.

You know, the Cayman also has a few mods out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMPS5EPipH8

Cmike2780 09-12-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 717676)
And if the Porsche driver did the same upgrades he would still beat the Z. And again the Z is not the best bang for the buck if we are talking speed. A base vette is probably the best bang for the buck for speed stock. What you might need to say say is its the best bang for your buck level. The Z is a nice car but I dont have grand illusions that its the mother of all cars, like vette owners think theirs is. And as far as getting looks, is there always a Porsche next to you when someone is looking and that is how you know you get 2X the looks? Go to downtown Miami and see who will get the girl with their car, the Z or the Porsche. Now Nissan did good with the changes they made for the 370Z as its the best looking one so far IMO and best performing.

Is it really that easy to get a girl in your car. Just buy a Porsche, wait outside a bar in Miami and leave the door open. How does a black van with blacked out windows rate in this comparison. Will my odds increase if I have a mustache?

Zsteve 09-12-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 717707)
Is it really that easy to get a girl in your car. Just buy a Porsche, wait outside a bar in Miami and leave the door open. How does a black van with blacked out windows rate in this comparison. Will my odds increase if I have a mustache?

There is no hope for you, you might as well go buy a hooker.


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