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USAFstevo 08-29-2010 11:19 PM

Pullin the trigger on a few upgrades, reps for responses!
 
Ok so ive been searching around and figuring out what parts to buy and heres what I got. Anyone who thinks they have better ideas or if you think I should go with a different brand please let me know. Ill rep people with good responses, feel free to rep back ;)

1. Fast Intentions cat back exhaust

2. Fast Intentions resonated test pipes

3. Z1 motorsports 25 row oil cooler

4. Gen 3 Stillen Intake

5. cant really decide between stillen light weight pulley and Non stop tuning 10% reduction pulley


Anyone who has any other ideas instead of what I have on that list let me know! thanks everyone!

christian370z 08-30-2010 01:09 AM

Those are the most tried and true bolt on power adder combinations. The best gains for these cars are had with a full exhaust and intake but the real benefit is how it changes the character of the car from a more sedate character to a much sharper and meaner one.

I love my Stillen G3, but those mods you have planned with make the car sound and feel so much better! The only thing I would think about is going with test pipes in addition to the FI cat-back. That will be a very loud combination and you only get a minimal increase of hp between test pipes and high flow cats.

SkyZ 08-30-2010 01:23 AM

is emissions a worry where you live? might want to look into HFCS instead of test pipes if it is. but other than that solid list.

if you want better replies you might wanna add in what the purpose of the car is. eg. daily driver, weekend tracking, dedicated track. whatever.

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 02:03 AM

right now im stationed in valdosta, GA so there are no emissions around here and theres not as much worry about cop trouble. thats why i opted for the test pipe. my cars purpose is weekend/the occasional ride to work. I do plan on tracking it occasionally but not all that often.

blue660r01 08-30-2010 02:12 AM

get lth s0n

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 700094)
get lth s0n

I have no idea what any of that means lol

blue660r01 08-30-2010 02:49 AM

long tube headers

Jordo! 08-30-2010 03:30 AM

You probably don't need the oil cooler; if you get one make sure it has a thermostat, ideally 200* instead of 180* -- those tend to run too cold in the winter, and then you need to attach a shroud to it to block off some of the rows...

For headers, wait to see how testing for PPE goes -- their prototype made excellent gains, so might as well wait and see. I'll be testing those in a couple of months.

If emissions are not a concern, go for test pipes -- less expensive and better gains. Make sure you get ones with the extra long defoulers to avoid a CEL.

flashburn 08-30-2010 07:00 AM

Sounds pretty good. I either have or plan to have all of the mods mentioned above. Only differences are that I have HFC's, and I will probably be going with the 34 Row Oil Cooler. I'm going to get it as part of Z1's track prep package and also get SS brake lines.

As Jordo said, you don't need to bother with an oil cooler unless you are going to track the car.

Kirkster 08-30-2010 08:11 AM

My car definitely needs an oil cooler. It was hitting 255 yesterday and the speeds never exceeded 75. I could have easily pushed it past 260. Last night it was 63 degrees and I never got over 60, by the time I had done 18 miles I was hitting 245. I was stuck behind a pickup truck the whole way so there was no chance for any WOT.

I would judge your need for an oil cooler by finding a nice twisty back road and exercise the car in 2 ~ 4 and see where your temps go. If you easily hit 240 inside of 5 min or less get the oil cooler.

flashburn 08-30-2010 08:26 AM

I just can't see how anyone could be driving safely or responsibly on public roads and have any sort of real oil temperature issues. I've driven fairly hard on public streets, and still never been able to get above 235-240.

ClemsonWill 08-30-2010 08:48 AM

Have you thought about springs/coilovers and sway bars? If you are going to be tracking the car they could be of great asset.

ProfessorDave 08-30-2010 09:32 AM

Ditto on the handling mods. I've put an H&R rear anti-sway bar on several of my cars, and am thinking of it for the Z, given the understeer I feel.

red6spd 08-30-2010 09:36 AM

Great choice of parts. Thats the same set-up I'm going with except I'm doing non-resonated test-pipes, but thats because I wanna wake up my neighbors LOL. O and dont forget the Tune man!!! Got to tune the car after all those goddies to A) Make it run safely and B) Get the most out of all the money your spending. I also plan on getting a Oil Cooler with the Thermostat, I have had my temps over 260 a few times soooo. I would also go with the Stillen Pulley. I have see real gains from Vids on that part. I also dont really like UnderDrive Pullies.

Good Choice but Tune that Sh**

Holliday 08-30-2010 10:53 AM

I think you would be better off with HFC's cause you never know where you will get stuck next! Plus you will like the sound better with HFC's over the test pipes. They are raspy and cause cabin drone. Have you looked into Berk? Z1 is really good. They hooked me up with shipping to my APO here in Germany. Ask them for a military discount;)

PS: I get rep points for being a fellow airman :happydance:

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 700246)
Great choice of parts. Thats the same set-up I'm going with except I'm doing non-resonated test-pipes, but thats because I wanna wake up my neighbors LOL. O and dont forget the Tune man!!! Got to tune the car after all those goddies to A) Make it run safely and B) Get the most out of all the money your spending. I also plan on getting a Oil Cooler with the Thermostat, I have had my temps over 260 a few times soooo. I would also go with the Stillen Pulley. I have see real gains from Vids on that part. I also dont really like UnderDrive Pullies.

Good Choice but Tune that Sh**

I though about tuning but apparently it completely voids the warranty, is it unsafe to not tune it?

flashburn 08-30-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by USAFstevo (Post 700407)
I though about tuning but apparently it completely voids the warranty, is it unsafe to not tune it?

It can be unsafe if you are running lean, and if you are running HFC's, non-stock CAI, and CBE, you could be.

As for the warranty... if you get either Cobb or Uprev you can simply uninstall it before you go in and that will remove any traces of it.

One_Quick_Z 08-30-2010 01:03 PM

If you are going to be putting all of those bolt-ons on at once you might want to consider a Tune, to make sure you A/F ratio is good and you might get some bonus Hp

Cobb
Osiris
AAM


DAN

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 700410)
It can be unsafe if you are running lean, and if you are running HFC's, non-stock CAI, and CBE, you could be.

As for the warranty... if you get either Cobb or Uprev you can simply uninstall it before you go in and that will remove any traces of it.


I had no idea, is that confirmed btw? Will they really not be able to tell at all and in turn not be able to rail me when I come in with a problem under warranty? :eekdance:

Kirkster 08-30-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 700170)
I just can't see how anyone could be driving safely or responsibly on public roads and have any sort of real oil temperature issues. I've driven fairly hard on public streets, and still never been able to get above 235-240.

You got lucky. Mine hits 240 going 65 around the DC beltway. Responsiably and safely.

flashburn 08-30-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 700869)
You got lucky. Mine hits 240 going 65 around the DC beltway. Responsiably and safely.

*shrug* I don't see how, from what I've experienced. Even in above 100 degree temperatures and 100% humidity.

flashburn 08-30-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by USAFstevo (Post 700859)
I had no idea, is that confirmed btw? Will they really not be able to tell at all and in turn not be able to rail me when I come in with a problem under warranty? :eekdance:

Yeah, plenty of people have said that Nissan doesn't keep track of things like say BMW does. You'll be fine.

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 04:57 PM

so there isnt a way to tell if the ecu was disconnected and reconnected at all, no seals or codes that need to be cleared upon install or something?

Juleous 08-30-2010 05:05 PM

I would also suggest the HFC give a hoot don't polute.

Have you thought about something other than the stillen G3? It would be nice to not have to remove the front to change filters.

Body kit? The Amuse Vestito kit is killer, how about the entertainment system?

flashburn 08-30-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by USAFstevo (Post 700907)
so there isnt a way to tell if the ecu was disconnected and reconnected at all, no seals or codes that need to be cleared upon install or something?

Once you uninstall either product it looks the same as stock to Nissan. Not sure what you mean by the ECU being disconnected, as both of those products are software solutions and not ECU replacements. They simply replace the tune stored on the ECU.

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juleous (Post 700913)
I would also suggest the HFC give a hoot don't polute.

Have you thought about something other than the stillen G3? It would be nice to not have to remove the front to change filters.

Body kit? The Amuse Vestito kit is killer, how about the entertainment system?

I did consider another intake however I wasnt able to find one with better power gains. I must say i like the amuse rear bumper but its a little to much money that i would rather put towards a supercharger. I havent realy put any thought into entertainment at all, any ideas?

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 700957)
Once you uninstall either product it looks the same as stock to Nissan. Not sure what you mean by the ECU being disconnected, as both of those products are software solutions and not ECU replacements. They simply replace the tune stored on the ECU.


well I feel dumb lol, thx for the input I think I might need to revise my list!

>135I 08-30-2010 05:58 PM

If you are looking to save a couple of bucks for some more upgrades. You can check out the DIY section and you can buy all the parts you will need for home built oil cooler set up. One of the members here did it and its working quite well. He listed all the parts you will need, where to buy them, and how to put it all together to make it work.

Jordo! 08-30-2010 06:13 PM

Also, RE: oil cooler -- I'll be testing out those ARC cool fins soon. If they drop temps by 10 -15* F, I'd say that will cover most folks who are seeing temps over 220 regularly unless they are tracking it.

Behold:

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...40606-0000.jpg

I also have two stuck on my diff cover :tup:

cab83_750 08-30-2010 06:56 PM

Consider yourself lucky if you don't see high temps. I for one used to noticed that temps went high going uphill in traffic or even at safe and mature 65-70 mph driving.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 700883)
*shrug* I don't see how, from what I've experienced. Even in above 100 degree temperatures and 100% humidity.


cab83_750 08-30-2010 07:02 PM

OP,

your list is solid. On the other hand, are you happy with the handling of the car? For me, handling was more impt so I went with sways, followed by c/o, big brakes, Hfc, oil cooler and lastly Nismo exhaust.

My faulty logic tells me that the car in stock form already has enough HP to last me for a while. Don't get me wrong, now that I am done with handling, I would install a supercharger or TT If I have the extra money.

Was it Pirelli who had the motto: "power is nothing without control.". Cheers!

Juleous 08-30-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAFstevo (Post 700959)
I did consider another intake however I wasnt able to find one with better power gains. I must say i like the amuse rear bumper but its a little to much money that i would rather put towards a supercharger. I havent realy put any thought into entertainment at all, any ideas?

It all depends on what your looking for? If you havn't thought about it yet then IMO entertainment would be low on your list. There have been some good custom installs on this site but they all increase weight a bunch.

A spare tire enclosure with a single 12", change out the stock speakers and add a decent amp with a factory system integration like the Audison bit one signal processor and you would have great sound minimal interior mods, and minimal weight gain. Dynamat the interior greatly reduces road noise but also increases weight by about 20lbs for the entire car.

USAFstevo 08-30-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab83_750 (Post 701041)
OP,

your list is solid. On the other hand, are you happy with the handling of the car? For me, handling was more impt so I went with sways, followed by c/o, big brakes, Hfc, oil cooler and lastly Nismo exhaust.

My faulty logic tells me that the car in stock form already has enough HP to last me for a while. Don't get me wrong, now that I am done with handling, I would install a supercharger or TT If I have the extra money.

Was it Pirelli who had the motto: "power is nothing without control.". Cheers!


For what im doing right now which is just weekend fun maybe a track day or two down the road, its handling is great for me. My car before this was a E46M3 so I had almost the exact ammount of power and I feel like I need some more. I will eventually tackle improving handling but its taking a back seat to power at the moment. thx for the input, im out of reps so ill have to continue repping tomo btw!

frost 08-30-2010 08:24 PM

Sweet, I could really use the rep :icon17:

Zsteve 08-30-2010 08:28 PM

The CBE will give you good gains and make the sound so much better and if you like the FI style you get that two. So its a threefer.

Red__Zed 08-30-2010 08:50 PM

I'd do some suspension mods early on, personally...


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