Nissan 370Z Forum  

Increased Valve Noise After Change To Amsoil

Originally Posted by Holliday That is very true about viscosity. I believe the OP was referring to the webpage on their recommendation for the 0W30. You should always choose the

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-30-2010, 12:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7627
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holliday View Post
That is very true about viscosity. I believe the OP was referring to the webpage on their recommendation for the 0W30. You should always choose the oil best for your local temps and driving habits. 0W30 in California this time a year might be to thin? They also list two different types of 5W30 you can use. Here are the properties for each oil:

Every oil for our 370Z
AMSOIL Product Recommendations - 2010%7cNISSAN%2fDATSUN%7c370Z%7cM

Signature Series 0W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil
AMSOIL - Signature Series 0W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil (SSO)

SAE 5W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil
AMSOIL - 100% Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil (ASL)

Extended Life 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (XLF)
AMSOIL]AMSOIL.com HTTP 404 Error
I run 0-30GermanCastrol in every car I have owned (except a 5.0 with a built (H/C/carb-conversion) engine with trouble that I never diagnosed (compression even, etc.), which DRANK oil, I ran 15-40 Rotella T in that. Horrible.)

In my LS1, it cut consumption vs. 5-30 Mobil one from 1qt/2500mi to 3/4qt 4500mi.

0-30GC is thicker than any 5/30 out there that I am aware of other than the other true group IV's like AMsoil and Redline, which I am not familiar with their ratings as I have not used them.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 12:32 AM   #17 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SoCal 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: US of A
Posts: 2,842
Drives: Answers
Rep Power: 33
SoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by iwasgointo View Post
"...and drove 32 miles to an excellent twisty road that's about 8 miles long and a favorite of motorcyclists.
Was there any increase in altitude associated with this road?
__________________
( Click to show/hide )
SoCal 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 12:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spearfish25 View Post
Anyone have any proof that valvetrain clicking loudness is associated with any problems? I thought not.
Boy, you don't give people a lot of time to answer, do you.

My experience was I had some valvetrain click in my engine and my dog died the very next day!
__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 01:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
Base Member
 
ZedZed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Belgium, Brussels
Posts: 237
Drives: nothing
Rep Power: 15
ZedZed is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
My experience was I had some valvetrain click in my engine and my dog died the very next day!
What was your dog doing in the engine
ZedZed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 02:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Holliday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cache, OK
Age: 38
Posts: 916
Drives: in the fast lane....
Rep Power: 17
Holliday will become famous soon enoughHolliday will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedZed View Post
What was your dog doing in the engine
__________________
Holliday is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 05:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedZed View Post
What was your dog doing in the engine
Dog power + Horse power = DogHorse Power! Duh!
__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: philadeelphia
Posts: 16
Drives: 09 Infiniti G37S
Rep Power: 15
iwasgointo is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z View Post
Was there any increase in altitude associated with this road?
No the road is sea level. The road is twisty, but not a twisty mountain road.
iwasgointo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: philadeelphia
Posts: 16
Drives: 09 Infiniti G37S
Rep Power: 15
iwasgointo is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holliday View Post
That is very true about viscosity. I believe the OP was referring to the webpage on their recommendation for the 0W30. You should always choose the oil best for your local temps and driving habits. 0W30 in California this time a year might be to thin? They also list two different types of 5W30 you can use. Here are the properties for each oil:

Every oil for our 370Z
AMSOIL Product Recommendations - 2010%7cNISSAN%2fDATSUN%7c370Z%7cM

Signature Series 0W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil
AMSOIL - Signature Series 0W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil (SSO)

SAE 5W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil
AMSOIL - 100% Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil (ASL)

Extended Life 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (XLF)
AMSOIL]AMSOIL.com HTTP 404 Error
Good point. I intend to continue using AMSOIL, but I will try a different viscosity for my next change.

I was thinking of trying the European spec oil they offer, but I wonder if this engine can tolerate a 5w40 oil?
iwasgointo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SoCal 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: US of A
Posts: 2,842
Drives: Answers
Rep Power: 33
SoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Your engine was already at operating temperature and therefor at a higher viscosity than 0. Why not have Blackstone do a oil analysis for you? I would not increase oil viscosity past Nissan's recommendation.
__________________
( Click to show/hide )
SoCal 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:48 PM   #25 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: TX
Posts: 3,298
Drives: the 2 balled club
Rep Power: 22
Zsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
That may be true but once I put Royal Purple in my engine and my dog died the very next day! I'm just sayin.......
so thats how you can get rid of the things.
__________________
2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette
Zsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
sonic370's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Orange Texas
Posts: 1,574
Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK
Rep Power: 18
sonic370 will become famous soon enoughsonic370 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to sonic370
Default

0/w30....5/w30.....10/w30.....
there seems to be more oil choices then z's on the road...
regular or synthetic......

i'm betting you could run wal-mart super tech "which no one ever will"
change it every 3000 miles and it wouldn't make a difference.

that statement i know is over kill. but so is the topic of oil.
what to use,when to change it, how much is my engine burning if any.

ok i'm off my soapbox.sorry to ramble
sonic370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: TX
Posts: 3,298
Drives: the 2 balled club
Rep Power: 22
Zsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to behold
Default

I grind up some miata doors to micro levels and add them to my oil so that they can strengthen my valves. 5w30M
__________________
2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette
Zsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:55 PM   #28 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SoCal 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: US of A
Posts: 2,842
Drives: Answers
Rep Power: 33
SoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sonic370 View Post
i'm betting you could run wal-mart super tech "which no one ever will"
change it every 3000 miles and it wouldn't make a difference.
I wouldn’t take that bet because you're right! Old school, but good school and still followed to the tee by many a mechanic on their own vehicles with basic dino.
__________________
( Click to show/hide )
SoCal 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 02:21 AM   #29 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7627
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z View Post
Your engine was already at operating temperature and therefor at a higher viscosity than 0. Why not have Blackstone do a oil analysis for you? I would not increase oil viscosity past Nissan's recommendation.
That "0" and that "30" are very misleading and pointless, imho. Forget they are on the bottle and go with cSt ratings and you will have a better handle on things.

You would have me belive that oil gets thicker as it gets hotter.

I would have you belive that if you send me $50,000, I will sell you my bridge in NY.

Last edited by ImportConvert; 08-31-2010 at 02:23 AM.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 02:26 AM   #30 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7627
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z View Post
I wouldn’t take that bet because you're right! Old school, but good school and still followed to the tee by many a mechanic on their own vehicles with basic dino.
I think the ad-pack is as, or more important than the base-stock in many cases. You need good base-stock, but the ad-pack is what makes many oils good for what they are good for (Shell Rotella T for flat tappet, etc. etc.)
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Synthetic Oil for 370z; Amsoil? 09370z Engine & Drivetrain 69 04-18-2012 06:19 AM
Blow-off valve Unforgotten Engine & Drivetrain 77 06-10-2010 07:22 PM
Valve Adjustment 370zFORme!! Engine & Drivetrain 34 04-22-2010 03:21 AM
In the process of becoming an Amsoil dealer, looking to gauge interest of the forum LiquidZ Engine & Drivetrain 6 10-07-2009 07:59 AM
Does increased Power increase Efficiency? Forrest Engine & Drivetrain 12 05-26-2009 06:22 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2