Nissan 370Z Forum  

Let's keep it on the track!!!

I know most of everyone on here is pretty responsible, but just a little reminder for those times when we feel the need for speed. Below is a story of

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-24-2010, 02:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
DeLRo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: CA
Age: 42
Posts: 343
Drives: 10 370Z MB T/S 6MT
Rep Power: 15
DeLRo is on a distinguished road
Default Let's keep it on the track!!!

I know most of everyone on here is pretty responsible, but just a little reminder for those times when we feel the need for speed. Below is a story of a friend of mine that was at the wrong place at the wrong time.


Two San Jose men receive maximum sentences in street racing death - San Jose Mercury News

Quote:
Two San Jose men receive maximum sentences in street racing death
Posted: 08/20/2010 07:21:46 PM PDT


Two San Jose men received maximum sentences Friday for a brief street race on a suburban street that caused the death of 20-year-old Alyson Snow when one of the men smashed into the rear of her Volkswagen Jetta.

Emmanuel Pourmand, 22, was sentenced to 9 years in prison by Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Philip P. Pennypacker, who said both men showed a lack of empathy. The judge sentenced 19-year-old Joseph Inocencio, who instigated the race, to six years and eight months in prison.

"I think the members of this community have the right to expect to go to a market and not be killed by a road race," Pennypacker said, adding it was also important to send a message that "if you live in Santa Clara County and decide to race on the streets, you will receive the maximum sentence allowed."

Deputy District Attorney Angela Bernhard said after the hearing that "it was the right sentence."

Both men pleaded no contest in June to vehicular manslaughter and reckless driving charges.

Sentencing followed two hours of emotional appeals from Snow's distraught family and friends for the maximum sentences. Attorneys for the two men kept their appeals to about 15 minutes. Every seat in the courtroom was taken and more than two dozen people wore "Aly's Army" T-shirts.

"I am told by your attorneys that you have remorse, but I don't see it," Snow's mother, Charlene Lennon, said to the two defendants. Until she spoke, both men had kept
Advertisement
their heads down but raised them when Lennon said, "I'm asking you to show respect and look at me."

On the night of Oct. 22, Snow and her good friend, Daniel Hendricks, were on their way home after running out to buy some milk and cookies. They were driving down Branham Lane when the two men came speeding up on either side of Snow and Hendricks.

"We never saw them coming," Hendricks said just before the sentencing hearing. "We had no warning. The next thing is a loud explosion and then her screaming."

"Aly was my best friend and one of the most positive people I've ever met in my entire life," Hendricks told the packed courtroom. Addressing the two defendants, he said, "you took away my best friend and for what? "... Never forget how many lives you changed that night because of your decision."

The two men did not know each other. Inocencio was leaving a 7-Eleven store on Pearl Avenue when he spotted Pourmand speeding in a "very fast" Nissan 350Z. Inocencio told police he thought he could catch up to the Nissan and "began chasing it in his BMW" up Pearl and onto Branham Lane.

It was his mother's BMW and witnesses heard Inocencio say after the crash "Oh my god, oh my god. It's my mom's car, it's my mom's car."

At the moment of impact, the investigation revealed that Pourmand's orange Nissan 350Z was going a minimum of 74 mph, according to court records. Inocencio's speed was calculated between 85 and 92 mph at the beginning of the collision sequence. Twenty seconds into the race, Pourmand lost control of his car and smashed into Snow's Jetta. Then Inocencio lost control and crashed.

According to court records, Pourmand claimed he was driving 40 mph, which he believed to be "under the speed limit"
on Branham Lane, to a friend's house to watch a movie. He denied to officers that he was speeding and said he never races. He later claimed that Snow's death was her own fault.

"Aly did nothing wrong," her godmother, Julie Grandee said. "Both of you men broke the law."

Snow, who had been working as a waitress to raise money for college, had a bright future, her friends and family said.

Now, "the only way I can see my best friend is by dropping by her grave and seeing her name etched in stone," said her friend, Gabrielle Solomon.

"Aly had a motto she lived by, 'live, laugh, love.' We are not just Aly's family and friends. We are Aly's Army."
DeLRo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 02:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jeffblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Age: 36
Posts: 9,192
Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe
Rep Power: 37
Jeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

sorry to hear about that. was your friend the victim or one of the drivers?
Jeffblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 02:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: N/A
Posts: 76,801
Drives: N/A
Rep Power: 141521
kenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond repute
Default

sorry to hear about your friend.
kenchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 02:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
Base Member
 
The Jewbag™'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Jew York
Posts: 32
Drives: 2008 Infiniti G37S
Rep Power: 15
The Jewbag™ is on a distinguished road
Default

What a terrible story. I really fight with myself sometimes when I'm driving and resist the urge to "dip" in traffic. Stories like these help remind me that not only am I putting myself in danger, but I'm also endangering the lives of innocent people, and then I slow down. Although a terrible tragedy, it serves as a good reminder for all of us to slow down and respect our fellow motorists. Those two drivers got what they deserved.
The Jewbag™ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 02:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jeffblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Age: 36
Posts: 9,192
Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe
Rep Power: 37
Jeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

additionally, these idiots are the reason why we get profiled for having sports cars and going to meets
Jeffblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
shadoquad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: .
Posts: 42,608
Drives: .
Rep Power: 3886
shadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffblue View Post
additionally, these idiots are the reason why we get profiled for having sports cars and going to meets
They're also the reason our insurance rates are so high.
shadoquad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
WarmAndSCSI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,671
Drives: '08 Evo X | '10 370Z
Rep Power: 18
WarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to behold
Default

I wish people who did this stupid sh*t would just learn how to drive to begin with. That's 90% of the problem. I honestly don't know how you manage to plow into the back of any car, while racing or not, if you're even paying half attention.

What a terrible loss just because of two imbeciles. It's a shame you can stop neither illegal racing nor stupidity.
__________________

'10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake
'08 Evo X - built motor+trans | BB-X @ 32 psi | CH3OH | self-built+tuned - ??? WHP
'01 Galant V6 - built motor | GT35R | self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)
WarmAndSCSI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jeffblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Age: 36
Posts: 9,192
Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe
Rep Power: 37
Jeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

whwnever i see some a hole doing like 100 on the highway, i just keep driving the same speed in the same lane and don't try to get out of their way. They don't expect you to get out of their way, thus, you swerve right to get out of their way, just as they go right to pass you. Thats probably what happened here.
Jeffblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
DeLRo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: CA
Age: 42
Posts: 343
Drives: 10 370Z MB T/S 6MT
Rep Power: 15
DeLRo is on a distinguished road
Default

My friend was Aly, she's the one that died in the crash last year. It wasn't until after the trial last week I found out one of the guys involved was driving a Z. Which just made it worse in my mind.

I know we all like to have fun, and I admit I at times do push the limits. But I don't exceed what I can't handle. Some people just don't know the difference and it puts themselves as well as others at risk and gives people reasons to stereotype the rest of us.
DeLRo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jeffblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Age: 36
Posts: 9,192
Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe
Rep Power: 37
Jeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Sorry to hear about your loss. Don't be too down about the fact that he was driving a Z. fast cars don't kill people, bad judgment kills people. You can do 90 in a corolla.
Jeffblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
shadoquad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: .
Posts: 42,608
Drives: .
Rep Power: 3886
shadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffblue View Post
Sorry to hear about your loss. Don't be too down about the fact that he was driving a Z. fast cars don't kill people, bad judgment kills people. You can do 90 in a corolla.
Street racing is inexcusable, especially with any other traffic around. And it's not brain surgeons who are involved usually. Had some kid in his Mazdaspeed3 try to race me at a red light a few months back... right in front of a police station.
shadoquad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
The Jewbag™'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Jew York
Posts: 32
Drives: 2008 Infiniti G37S
Rep Power: 15
The Jewbag™ is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLRo View Post
My friend was Aly, she's the one that died in the crash last year. It wasn't until after the trial last week I found out one of the guys involved was driving a Z. Which just made it worse in my mind.

I know we all like to have fun, and I admit I at times do push the limits. But I don't exceed what I can't handle. Some people just don't know the difference and it puts themselves as well as others at risk and gives people reasons to stereotype the rest of us.

I'm sorry, but you can never say you know 100% what you can handle. There are professional drivers that die in accidents all the time.
The Jewbag™ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
WarmAndSCSI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,671
Drives: '08 Evo X | '10 370Z
Rep Power: 18
WarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to beholdWarmAndSCSI is a splendid one to behold
Default

Chasing another car to street race is never a bright idea... it just leads to trouble.

But, for example, my wife pulled up next to a Corvette at a light yesterday. 4 lane road, 50 mph limit, big painted median, no sidewalks. Nobody in front, nobody making right turns, nobody on the other side of the road. She didn't go for it, but it would have been reasonable then to have a bit of fun in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Taking it beyond that would have been dumb.
__________________

'10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake
'08 Evo X - built motor+trans | BB-X @ 32 psi | CH3OH | self-built+tuned - ??? WHP
'01 Galant V6 - built motor | GT35R | self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)
WarmAndSCSI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
spearfish25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 4,117
Drives: to work
Rep Power: 1856
spearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to spearfish25
Default

I can see exactly how this accident happened. These boneheads were probably doing 100mph and were in the adjacent lane to this poor girl. They figured she'd stay in her lane while they blew past, and she probably changed lanes and never saw them. Just a guess, but that's my best estimate of how these little pukes would blame her for it.

Enjoy your prison showers, boys.
__________________
2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z
spearfish25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 03:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
GingaBreadMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 313
Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd
Rep Power: 16
GingaBreadMan is on a distinguished road
Default

Inexperience drivers and bad decision making are a terrible combination.
__________________
ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights
Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo
GingaBreadMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MVP Track Time 2010 Track Dates and Invitation Feffman Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip 9 06-18-2010 01:21 PM
At the track feelzpwr91 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 22 12-17-2009 07:48 PM
Track Day with Stillen Track Cooler ResIpsa Engine & Drivetrain 10 10-27-2009 07:31 PM
Track and Track School Recommendations sylenze Southern California Region 4 07-13-2009 05:38 PM
H2R Track Video (ZCON09 Track Event) zsport1 ZCON 2009 4 04-01-2009 07:28 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2