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Originally Posted by joentown Not a big fan of the Nismo. Not since the C&D article showed the Nismo as less than a sports car when its brakes failed during

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Old 08-25-2010, 03:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Not a big fan of the Nismo. Not since the C&D article showed the Nismo as less than a sports car when its brakes failed during the lightning lap. As i recall, Nissan's response was something like "the brakes were not meant for high-performance driving".

I think Nissan shot itself in the foot with a reply like that. In other words, "our performance-enhanced version of our high-performance sports car (GTR aside) isn't really meant to handle track conditions. If you want that, you can always buy our upgraded brake package for $500"

By the way C&D tested the Nismo with the $500 pads and it didn't do a whole lot better than the standard .
The C&D braking issue had nothing to do with NISMO 370Z's specifically. The NISMO 350Z with Brembo's didn't do well in those same tests either. Nissan also chose the stock brake pads to appease customers who bought "performance cars" and then just drove them on the street. Plenty of people with 350Z's whined and complained about dust and noise from brakes. Nissan reacted with pads better suited for the street and then the C&D crash happened.

The funny thing about people saying they could do better than Nissan did for the price of a NISMO is I doubt most people actually have. How many people scoffing at the price of a NISMO have upgraded coilovers, sway bars, ECU tune, exhaust, rims, tires, chassis braces, and have a full bodykit (front + rear bumper, side skirts, and spoiler)? Some people have, and those people have very nice cars, but it takes a lot of time and effort in addition to just money.

My point is let your mods do the talking and all of this armchair "Yeah, well... I coulda..." BS is useless.
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The C&D braking issue had nothing to do with NISMO 370Z's specifically. The NISMO 350Z with Brembo's didn't do well in those same tests either. Nissan also chose the stock brake pads to appease customers who bought "performance cars" and then just drove them on the street. Plenty of people with 350Z's whined and complained about dust and noise from brakes. Nissan reacted with pads better suited for the street and then the C&D crash happened.

The funny thing about people saying they could do better than Nissan did for the price of a NISMO is I doubt most people actually have. How many people scoffing at the price of a NISMO have upgraded coilovers, sway bars, ECU tune, exhaust, rims, tires, chassis braces, and have a full bodykit (front + rear bumper, side skirts, and spoiler)? Some people have, and those people have very nice cars, but it takes a lot of time and effort in addition to just money.

My point is let your mods do the talking and all of this armchair "Yeah, well... I coulda..." BS is useless.


For a lot of people, the fun is in doing the modding, rather than having the modded car.

In addition, you could probably better the NISMO for less money, but even then, I'd argue it's a waste of money. The amount of money spent making the car marginally more powerful/handle slightly better could be spent much better on different things.

In the end, it's about a complete package, and for everyone it will be something different. Some people are willing to make the trade-off financially to get performance from the factory--I know I actually considered it on the Z. Driving around a heavily modified car is fun in some ways, but it is a PITA in a lot of others.
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For a lot of people, the fun is in doing the modding, rather than having the modded car.

In addition, you could probably better the NISMO for less money, but even then, I'd argue it's a waste of money. The amount of money spent making the car marginally more powerful/handle slightly better could be spent much better on different things.

In the end, it's about a complete package, and for everyone it will be something different. Some people are willing to make the trade-off financially to get performance from the factory--I know I actually considered it on the Z. Driving around a heavily modified car is fun in some ways, but it is a PITA in a lot of others.
I agree that the journey is half the fun. Some things I didn't want to do though, like crack & sand a fiberglass bodykit. Ugh, that kind of work is awful! That said I do have coilovers and an exhaust for my NISMO. My only gripe for the NISMO is that Nissan had given it the same Brembo brakes (6-pot/4-pot) it did on the NISMO 350Z.
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I agree that the journey is half the fun. Some things I didn't want to do though, like crack & sand a fiberglass bodykit. Ugh, that kind of work is awful! That said I do have coilovers and an exhaust for my NISMO. My only gripe for the NISMO is that Nissan had given it the same Brembo brakes (6-pot/4-pot) it did on the NISMO 350Z.
I agree with you on bodywork...no fun at all.

For me though, I don't really find any joy in changing much from the stock look. I'll throw on rims and lower it, but beyond that, my money goes under the hood (though on the Z, hopefully, my money will stay out of the car entirely).
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I agree with you on bodywork...no fun at all.

For me though, I don't really find any joy in changing much from the stock look. I'll throw on rims and lower it, but beyond that, my money goes under the hood (though on the Z, hopefully, my money will stay out of the car entirely).
Wait, two people are agreeing on a forum? How did that happen?
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