Sliding, Slipping, Drifting

shadoquad · 08-18-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

hahaha I was at work when I typed the post. There were several people around me so I didn't want them to see it. AWFUL English huh?

lol I had to re-read it several times. Could just be my edumacation level.

USMCASA · 08-18-2010, 05:01 PM

took a friends daughter for a ride in the z the other night and on the way back to her house she asked if it goes sideways... took it down the next road to the left and turned off the vdc and gassed it through the turn and it slid out with no problem but despite counter steering it didn't recover until it was halfway in the other lane(no cars on the road but me). i would say this is more of a power slide than drift but i've had the vdc on and had the car sideways and it definitely helps in the recovery. all in all the vdc and sync-rev tranny make all of us z owners much better drivers than we are in real life.

christian370z · 08-18-2010, 06:04 PM

I personally believe that you would have to be a mad man to even bring the Z close to its limits on a public road not only because it is dangerous, but mostly because the limits are so high that you need to be going stupidly fast.

I am a first time RWD car owner and I have only turned off VDC a couple of times in the parking lot. Even with my Touring and the open differential, I was able to step the back end out relatively easily. My recommendation is find a professional performance driving school and learn how to properly push a car like the Z to its limits under supervision and instruction, then start Auto-x'ing and tacking the car.

NCSUPACK09 · 08-18-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Here's my contribution:
Fun Track Day, Little Mishap

The Z will understeer like crazy if you cook a turn, but take the turn at an appropriate speed and the handling is excellent.

Do you mean the Z oversteers like crazy? Your video showed the car oversteering.

Mt Tam I am · 08-19-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

So I've had my 370z now for almost 5 months and have yet to really get a "feel" for the car in terms of how it handles. I do drive it to work everyday but I have yet to "push it " to see what the car is really capable of. IN NO WAY am i condoning wreck less driving or exceeding the speed limit, but with every car I've owned I've always tested the handling to make sure I fully understand what it can do/cant do-which in my opinion believe makes people better drivers. I have yet to take the Z to the track to test out its handling, but does anyone have any stories of how the Z handles? A few examples that I would like to hear about it, include

-did you lose control and then regain it, what happened?
-were you at a track testing out the handling of the Z
-were you drifting with the Z, is it particularly hard to do this and regain control?
-were you driving in inclement weather and the Z did not handle well in a particular situation
-Any general stories about testing out the Z and its handling......

What I am trying to do is figure out from other peoples stories how the Z will handle when I go to the track and test it out for myself. I would like to be prepared so I figured i would start this thread. Thanks

RE: Any general stories
Within 24 hours of driving my new Z vs older Z, I comfortably took all turns 10% faster than previous personal best. Then worked up from here.
I am in the minority about the VDC. I think it a fine feature in wet weather. I turn it off all the rest of the time. It is faster out of the sharp turns. The VDC triggers when you are in no danger too, so off it stays. The VDC to me feels like an automatic transmission driving downhill when you don't know when it will shift.
The car recovers easily when you make a mistake. I am not a big drifter but it does it well.

I was initially timid to turn VDC off because of the way people on this site revere it and fear the alternative. A poll here at the 370.com shows 60% of members are under 30 years old. 30 years is how long I've been driving rear wheel drive sports cars, none of which had traction control so I learned to become the VDC and apparently prefer it.

RDGR12 · 08-19-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I agree that autocross or a race track session are the proper places to really test a car's performance limits.

But man, the wording of your post...

Yea, yea... but you got my point.

But talking about understeer, WRX have it worse.

BeachZTT · 08-19-2010, 08:00 AM

Kind of a side note on the subject... The weekend after I got the roadster, I was leaving a parking lot with two exit lanes. I was preparing to make a right waiting for traffic to clear. There was a guy to my left also waiting. He apparently decided not to wait for both directions to clear because as the first break in nearer traffic approached, I saw him start to crank the wheel in my direction as he edged forward... still watching traffic and never looking to his right. I went for the horn as I dumped the clutch. Good thing he heard the horn and jumped on his breaks because the VDC left me stumbling in his path! I came very near to catching one in the drivers door... and then going to jail for choking him.

Mt Tam I am · 08-19-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT

the VDC left me stumbling in his path! I came very near to catching one in the drivers door...

Power can get you in or out of trouble, but the VDC tries to out think the driver. In this case stumbling.

08-18-2010, 06:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	I personally believe that you would have to be a mad man to even bring the Z close to its limits on a public road not only because it is dangerous, but mostly because the limits are so high that you need to be going stupidly fast. I am a first time RWD car owner and I have only turned off VDC a couple of times in the parking lot. Even with my Touring and the open differential, I was able to step the back end out relatively easily. My recommendation is find a professional performance driving school and learn how to properly push a car like the Z to its limits under supervision and instruction, then start Auto-x'ing and tacking the car. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

08-19-2010, 08:00 AM	#22 (permalink)
BeachZTT Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 746 Drives: '10 BC ZR T/S/Nav Rep Power: 17	Kind of a side note on the subject... The weekend after I got the roadster, I was leaving a parking lot with two exit lanes. I was preparing to make a right waiting for traffic to clear. There was a guy to my left also waiting. He apparently decided not to wait for both directions to clear because as the first break in nearer traffic approached, I saw him start to crank the wheel in my direction as he edged forward... still watching traffic and never looking to his right. I went for the horn as I dumped the clutch. Good thing he heard the horn and jumped on his breaks because the VDC left me stumbling in his path! I came very near to catching one in the drivers door... and then going to jail for choking him. __________________ '10 ZR Black Cherry Sport/Touring/Nav, Swift Springs, Stillen G3s, 15mm-F 20mm-R Spacers, SPC, Spoiler Solutions Rear Wing, Stubby Antenna

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08-18-2010, 05:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
USMCASA A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,152 Drives: 09 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 18	took a friends daughter for a ride in the z the other night and on the way back to her house she asked if it goes sideways... took it down the next road to the left and turned off the vdc and gassed it through the turn and it slid out with no problem but despite counter steering it didn't recover until it was halfway in the other lane(no cars on the road but me). i would say this is more of a power slide than drift but i've had the vdc on and had the car sideways and it definitely helps in the recovery. all in all the vdc and sync-rev tranny make all of us z owners much better drivers than we are in real life.