Nissan 370Z Forum  

Road & Track: 370Z vs Cayman S

Originally Posted by !xoible arent the numbers under 5 when the car is rolling? Not with most. The best is a 4.7 but only Motor Trend got that. Car and

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-27-2009, 12:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by !xoible View Post
arent the numbers under 5 when the car is rolling?
Not with most. The best is a 4.7 but only Motor Trend got that. Car and Driver just got a 4.8 here Nissan 370Z vs. BMW 135i, Mazda RX-8 R3, and Pontiac Solstice GXP. Edmunds and Motorweek both got a 5.1 but they tend to be about .2 slower than everyone else on almost all cars. Road and Track originally got a 5.1 but blamed elevation for at least .1 of that and have gotten a smidge slower here. I just don't recall number varying this widely on most cars. Best example would be something like a Mustang usually which stays between 5.1 and 5.3 on everybody's reviews. We seem to have a full 1/2 second swing with the nissan. Makes me wonder if it might be overly temp or elevation sensitive. But another problem in this article is that they have a 3530 curb weight, the heaviest I've ever seen for a 370Z.
__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

Last edited by Lug; 02-27-2009 at 12:40 PM.
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 12:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
Base Member
 
klubbheads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Hollywood, CA
Posts: 221
Drives: Very slow Nismo 370
Rep Power: 16
klubbheads is on a distinguished road
Default

^every NA car is elevation sensative.
klubbheads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 12:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by klubbheads View Post
^every NA car is elevation sensative.
hence the term "overly"
__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 12:42 PM   #19 (permalink)
Base Member
 
!xoible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: west
Posts: 245
Drives: some car
Rep Power: 185
!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
Not with most. The best is a 4.7 but only Motor Trend got that. Car and Driver just got a 4.8 here Nissan 370Z vs. BMW 135i, Mazda RX-8 R3, and Pontiac Solstice GXP. Edmunds and Motorweek both got a 5.1 but they tend to be about .2 slower than everyone else on almost all cars. Road and Track originally got a 5.1 but blamed elevation for at least .1 of that and have gotten a smidge slower here. I just don't recall number varying this widely on most cars. Best example would be something like a Mustang usually which stays between 5.1 and 5.3 on everybody's reviews. We seem to have a full 1/2 second swing with the nissan. Makes me wonder if it might be overly temp or elevation sensitive.
wow 4.7! my car doesnt even get a 4.7 lol so how do they get a 4.7 then 1/4 mile in high 13's? they're either lying about the 4.7, or what ^^ says above that 3-up gears are too long.
!xoible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 12:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
Base Member
 
klubbheads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Hollywood, CA
Posts: 221
Drives: Very slow Nismo 370
Rep Power: 16
klubbheads is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
hence the term "overly"
My g35 made 0.6 second difference in 1/4 mile in 2500 elevation difference with very similar weather conditions. So i guess overly is the right term.
klubbheads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 12:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Paradise
Posts: 133
Drives: Z34 future owner
Rep Power: 16
FairmanZ will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by !xoible View Post
wow 4.7! my car doesnt even get a 4.7 lol so how do they get a 4.7 then 1/4 mile in high 13's? they're either lying about the 4.7, or what ^^ says above that 3-up gears are too long.
MT got 4.7 and their 1/4 mile was not high 13's, it was 13.3 secs. C&D got 4.8 and their 1/4 mile, if you download the test sheet, was 13.4.

The others who got low 5's 0-60 were the ones with higher ~13.7 sec 1/4 miles. In this Road&Track test they specifically say the 90 degree heat was an issue that hurt the VQ's performance, which may explain the relatively poor 0-60 in 5.2 secs.

Last edited by FairmanZ; 02-27-2009 at 01:06 PM.
FairmanZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 01:01 PM   #22 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: nj
Posts: 177
Drives: RRSC
Rep Power: 16
sbkim is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Endgame View Post
O.K. So.... The Z did 4.7 0-60 in MotorTrend. It is still within spitting distance.

You clearly missed my point - all I am saying is that 2009 cayman would have performed even better than 2008. 0.2 secs could mean one or two car lengths, perhaps even more by the time they hit 100mph. BTW, I am NOT a fan of cayman.
sbkim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 01:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Paradise
Posts: 133
Drives: Z34 future owner
Rep Power: 16
FairmanZ will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger View Post
or people can just add the oil cooler if they want to track the car. thats what I would do.
True, but at least Nissan via NISMO should make these coolers available for sale. Otherwise there's always the potential for some dealer to give you hassles on warranty.

OTOH, the Z is marketed as serious sports car. This heat issue is a weak spot that Nissan knows about. Having the car go into limp mode and lowering the rev limit to 6500 is Nissan's fix, but it cripples the car's performance. You don't need to add oil & diff coolers to most other cars if you want to track your car.
FairmanZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 01:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
Base Member
 
!xoible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: west
Posts: 245
Drives: some car
Rep Power: 185
!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute!xoible has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FairmanZ View Post
MT got 4.7 and their 1/4 mile was not high 13's, it was 13.3 secs. C&D got 4.8 and their 1/4 mile, if you download the test sheet, was 13.4.

The others who got low 5's 0-60 were the ones with higher ~13.7 sec 1/4 miles. In this Road&Track test they specifically say the 90 degree heat was an issue that hurt the VQ's performance, which may explain the relatively poor 0-60 in 5.2 secs.
oh okay. my bad. i read so many numbers i cant even remember.
!xoible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 02:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FairmanZ View Post
MT got 4.7 and their 1/4 mile was not high 13's, it was 13.3 secs. C&D got 4.8 and their 1/4 mile, if you download the test sheet, was 13.4.

The others who got low 5's 0-60 were the ones with higher ~13.7 sec 1/4 miles. In this Road&Track test they specifically say the 90 degree heat was an issue that hurt the VQ's performance, which may explain the relatively poor 0-60 in 5.2 secs.
I live south of Houston, Texas.
__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by !xoible View Post
wow 4.7! my car doesnt even get a 4.7 lol so how do they get a 4.7 then 1/4 mile in high 13's? they're either lying about the 4.7, or what ^^ says above that 3-up gears are too long.
Motor Trend got a 4.3 and a 12.7 Q/M out of your car.

2008 BMW M3 vs. 2008 Lexus IS F vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG - Specifications - Comparison - Motor Trend
__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 06:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Endgame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 1,613
Drives: Nothing Now!
Rep Power: 224
Endgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
But another problem in this article is that they have a 3530 curb weight, the heaviest I've ever seen for a 370Z.
This does not bother me much as it seems to remind me of the articles that painted the 350z as being 3600 pounds. I SERIOUSLY doubt this car is as heavy as a Maxima...

I, for one, believe Nissan's numbers from the factory with the addition of the Sports pack (being about 50 pounds)....
Endgame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 09:00 PM   #28 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Paradise
Posts: 133
Drives: Z34 future owner
Rep Power: 16
FairmanZ will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lug View Post
But another problem in this article is that they have a 3530 curb weight, the heaviest I've ever seen for a 370Z.
The curb weight is listed as 3360 lbs, about the same as in the MT & C&D tests. It's the test weight that is shown as 3530, but that includes the driver weight. R&T always includes the weight of their drivers in the "test" weight.
FairmanZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2009, 10:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FairmanZ View Post
The curb weight is listed as 3360 lbs, about the same as in the MT & C&D tests. It's the test weight that is shown as 3530, but that includes the driver weight. R&T always includes the weight of their drivers in the "test" weight.
Then they need to start using jockeys or MiniMe as test drivers!

__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2009, 06:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
tvfreakazoid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: kommie kali
Posts: 1,238
Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd.
Rep Power: 10324
tvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Well when they test the new 09 cayman i'm pretty sure it will out perform the 370z. If I could afford the 09 cayman I would probably get it, but then again I I would spend an extra 10k or so to get the GTR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RCZ View Post
I am rather happy with the results. I still think the Z is the better choice regardless of price. The Cayman is too bland...it handles well and looks good, but its too mainstream and the interior isn't exactly astonishing. Porsche needs a serious update to their interiors...the flat pannel isnt cutting it.

I think the Z is a lot more fun around a track AND around town. Its more special too.
__________________
Mudders milk

http://www.the370z.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1188&dateline=1232328  539
tvfreakazoid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Road & Track gets it wrong semtex Nissan 370Z General Discussions 45 05-02-2009 09:28 PM
Road and Track tests 370Z (no 56K) Namir Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 20 02-23-2009 10:50 AM
ROAD & TRACK Video - Full Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z sbsmoov Nissan 370Z General Discussions 4 12-02-2008 12:05 AM
Road and Track: Top 5 Twisty-Road Tamers, Nissan 370Z AK370Z Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 2 11-28-2008 04:51 PM
Road and Track Magazine recent news on the 370Z admin Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 0 09-26-2008 04:55 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2