Road & Track: 370Z vs Cayman S

!xoible · 02-27-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

I found a 0-60 at 5.2 kind of odd. We've already seen 5.1, 4.9, 4.8, 4.7 and 5.3. This range is pretty extreme even taking into account variations due to elevation and temp.

arent the numbers under 5 when the car is rolling?

Lug · 02-27-2009, 11:37 AM

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arent the numbers under 5 when the car is rolling?

Not with most. The best is a 4.7 but only Motor Trend got that. Car and Driver just got a 4.8 here Nissan 370Z vs. BMW 135i, Mazda RX-8 R3, and Pontiac Solstice GXP. Edmunds and Motorweek both got a 5.1 but they tend to be about .2 slower than everyone else on almost all cars. Road and Track originally got a 5.1 but blamed elevation for at least .1 of that and have gotten a smidge slower here. I just don't recall number varying this widely on most cars. Best example would be something like a Mustang usually which stays between 5.1 and 5.3 on everybody's reviews. We seem to have a full 1/2 second swing with the nissan. Makes me wonder if it might be overly temp or elevation sensitive. But another problem in this article is that they have a 3530 curb weight, the heaviest I've ever seen for a 370Z.

!xoible · 02-27-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Not with most. The best is a 4.7 but only Motor Trend got that. Car and Driver just got a 4.8 here Nissan 370Z vs. BMW 135i, Mazda RX-8 R3, and Pontiac Solstice GXP. Edmunds and Motorweek both got a 5.1 but they tend to be about .2 slower than everyone else on almost all cars. Road and Track originally got a 5.1 but blamed elevation for at least .1 of that and have gotten a smidge slower here. I just don't recall number varying this widely on most cars. Best example would be something like a Mustang usually which stays between 5.1 and 5.3 on everybody's reviews. We seem to have a full 1/2 second swing with the nissan. Makes me wonder if it might be overly temp or elevation sensitive.

wow 4.7! my car doesnt even get a 4.7 lol so how do they get a 4.7 then 1/4 mile in high 13's? they're either lying about the 4.7, or what ^^ says above that 3-up gears are too long.

FairmanZ · 02-27-2009, 11:58 AM

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wow 4.7! my car doesnt even get a 4.7 lol so how do they get a 4.7 then 1/4 mile in high 13's? they're either lying about the 4.7, or what ^^ says above that 3-up gears are too long.

MT got 4.7 and their 1/4 mile was not high 13's, it was 13.3 secs. C&D got 4.8 and their 1/4 mile, if you download the test sheet, was 13.4.

The others who got low 5's 0-60 were the ones with higher ~13.7 sec 1/4 miles. In this Road&Track test they specifically say the 90 degree heat was an issue that hurt the VQ's performance, which may explain the relatively poor 0-60 in 5.2 secs.

!xoible · 02-27-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmanZ

MT got 4.7 and their 1/4 mile was not high 13's, it was 13.3 secs. C&D got 4.8 and their 1/4 mile, if you download the test sheet, was 13.4.

The others who got low 5's 0-60 were the ones with higher ~13.7 sec 1/4 miles. In this Road&Track test they specifically say the 90 degree heat was an issue that hurt the VQ's performance, which may explain the relatively poor 0-60 in 5.2 secs.

oh okay. my bad. i read so many numbers i cant even remember.

Lug · 02-27-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmanZ

MT got 4.7 and their 1/4 mile was not high 13's, it was 13.3 secs. C&D got 4.8 and their 1/4 mile, if you download the test sheet, was 13.4.

The others who got low 5's 0-60 were the ones with higher ~13.7 sec 1/4 miles. In this Road&Track test they specifically say the 90 degree heat was an issue that hurt the VQ's performance, which may explain the relatively poor 0-60 in 5.2 secs.

I live south of Houston, Texas.

Lug · 02-27-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by !xoible

wow 4.7! my car doesnt even get a 4.7 lol so how do they get a 4.7 then 1/4 mile in high 13's? they're either lying about the 4.7, or what ^^ says above that 3-up gears are too long.

Motor Trend got a 4.3 and a 12.7 Q/M out of your car.

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Endgame · 02-27-2009, 05:30 PM

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But another problem in this article is that they have a 3530 curb weight, the heaviest I've ever seen for a 370Z.

This does not bother me much as it seems to remind me of the articles that painted the 350z as being 3600 pounds. I SERIOUSLY doubt this car is as heavy as a Maxima...

I, for one, believe Nissan's numbers from the factory with the addition of the Sports pack (being about 50 pounds)....

FairmanZ · 02-27-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

But another problem in this article is that they have a 3530 curb weight, the heaviest I've ever seen for a 370Z.

The curb weight is listed as 3360 lbs, about the same as in the MT & C&D tests. It's the test weight that is shown as 3530, but that includes the driver weight. R&T always includes the weight of their drivers in the "test" weight.

Lug · 02-27-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmanZ

The curb weight is listed as 3360 lbs, about the same as in the MT & C&D tests. It's the test weight that is shown as 3530, but that includes the driver weight. R&T always includes the weight of their drivers in the "test" weight.

Then they need to start using jockeys or MiniMe as test drivers!

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