You will not believe this

fullmonty · 07-31-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

trust me your choice of words i'm no wanker. i love the car and can afford it.
but would you want to keep a car where at 800 miles the service engine soon
light started to come on. and the only way to get it to go off is to have the dealer reset it for what is now the third time.( recap) 1 filler hose 2 new gas caps 1 which is now duct taped on? they have one more chance to make it right then paper work will be filled.

can't blame you for wanting it gone. I know I would.

Kirkster · 08-01-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

trust me your choice of words i'm no wanker. i love the car and can afford it.
but would you want to keep a car where at 800 miles the service engine soon
light started to come on. and the only way to get it to go off is to have the dealer reset it for what is now the third time.( recap) 1 filler hose 2 new gas caps 1 which is now duct taped on? they have one more chance to make it right then paper work will be filled.

I would be upset also. I was just looking at it from the stealerships point of view. They are covering their

as they should be.

Hopefully it gets resolved for you soon. But as far as the duct tape that is just the dealer doing his due dillagance when Nissan asks them what they did to make sure it was on the up and up.

Zsteve · 08-01-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster

I would be upset also. I was just looking at it from the stealerships point of view. They are covering their

as they should be.

Hopefully it gets resolved for you soon. But as far as the duct tape that is just the dealer doing his due dillagance when Nissan asks them what they did to make sure it was on the up and up.

I really doubt that using duct tape is part of the troubleshooting process. They have a chart, for lack of a better word, to follow when troubleshooting. If it is acceptable Im sure Audi and BMW, who were slamed on Nissans ads, would love to know they use duct tape to troubleshoot.

Matt · 08-01-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I really doubt that using duct tape is part of the troubleshooting process. They have a chart, for lack of a better word, to follow when troubleshooting. If it is acceptable Im sure Audi and BMW, who were slamed on Nissans ads, would love to know they use duct tape to troubleshoot.

Troubleshooting Process:

- Look up CEL code.
- Find some duct tape.
- ???
- Profit!

PapoZalsa · 08-01-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Troubleshooting Process:

- Look up CEL code.
- Find some duct tape.
- ???
- Profit!

Call a real Tech from Nissan North America?

sonic370 · 08-01-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I really doubt that using duct tape is part of the troubleshooting process. They have a chart, for lack of a better word, to follow when troubleshooting. If it is acceptable Im sure Audi and BMW, who were slamed on Nissans ads, would love to know they use duct tape to troubleshoot.

you are correct the duct tape is part of the troubleshooting process. if after 2
refills of gas if the light does not come on they claim it has to be the gas cap.
sense they have already replaced the filler neck. but what im worried about is the fact its on its second cap already. and if this is the issue is it serious
enough to be consider for the lemon law

kielbasa16 · 08-01-2010, 08:11 PM

Dude I agree whole heartedly that if a dealer is putting duct tape on your fkin hard earned money let them do that **** to their own car. You deserve to be put in a fkin Nismo while they try and figure their own BS problem out. Get your money back and go elsewhere. Thats not McGyver due diligence, thats lazy poor *** customer service. Get your money and run.

Jessica · 08-01-2010, 09:11 PM

My husband is an ASE/Nissan Master/GTR tech. As soon as I read the op to him, he said "Thats some shady ****." Take it to a different dealer. It may be a drive, but at least you'll get better service.

Zsteve · 08-01-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Troubleshooting Process:

- Look up CEL code.
- Find some duct tape.
- ???
- Profit!

i must have missed that in the book damn

CUNNART · 08-02-2010, 08:17 AM

Yeah you need to go to a different dealer. That tech doesn't know what the hell he's doing. And since it's considered it's a come back it is going to keep going to the same tech instead of a new one that might know what the hell he's doing. My guess is the evap canister or pump has a leak. They should be triggering the test and using a sniffer to see if it's actually leaking in the system. If it's not they should then be looking at other components of the system. Obviously it's not the cap or the neck they already replaced those. They are probably doing it to rule out you tampering with it as mentioned before.

I once had a car that was setting an evap code and the vacuum hose leading into the canister had a small pin sized hole in it.

billydsz · 08-02-2010, 02:26 PM

I have now officially seen everything.

Duct tape. LOL! Insanity!

thekinn · 08-02-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

... small evac leak...
...sorry to ramble but needed to vent.

pun intended?

Good luck with the fix man.

sonic370 · 08-02-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CUNNART

Yeah you need to go to a different dealer. That tech doesn't know what the hell he's doing. And since it's considered it's a come back it is going to keep going to the same tech instead of a new one that might know what the hell he's doing. My guess is the evap canister or pump has a leak. They should be triggering the test and using a sniffer to see if it's actually leaking in the system. If it's not they should then be looking at other components of the system. Obviously it's not the cap or the neck they already replaced those. They are probably doing it to rule out you tampering with it as mentioned before.

I once had a car that was setting an evap code and the vacuum hose leading into the canister had a small pin sized hole in it.

good advice. i asked and was told today they already preformed the test that involves putting smoke in the system and it showed no leaks or signs of the smoke whatever that means. iv'e got documentations of four visit's to the dealership the next time it comes on and it will i am contacting nissan.
i'm giving them one chance to fix it then its lemon law time.i've already got all the papers ready to fill out

sonic370 · 08-02-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CUNNART

Yeah you need to go to a different dealer. That tech doesn't know what the hell he's doing. And since it's considered it's a come back it is going to keep going to the same tech instead of a new one that might know what the hell he's doing. My guess is the evap canister or pump has a leak. They should be triggering the test and using a sniffer to see if it's actually leaking in the system. If it's not they should then be looking at other components of the system. Obviously it's not the cap or the neck they already replaced those. They are probably doing it to rule out you tampering with it as mentioned before.

I once had a car that was setting an evap code and the vacuum hose leading into the canister had a small pin sized hole in it.

they said they tired that already if you me putting smoke thru it to check for leaks. if it comes back on im contacting nissan

CUNNART · 08-03-2010, 06:46 AM

Yeah I have heard of the smoke test. If there is no out ward leaks more then likely it's the pump that check the system. It could be an ecu error, but at this point my guess is nissan will replace a majority of the items in the system. Manufacturer's will try a lot of things before they buy back a car, I only ever saw 1 car get bought back. GL though.

08-01-2010, 08:11 PM	#37 (permalink)
kielbasa16 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NY Posts: 770 Drives: 09 Blk Z Spt Rep Power: 17	Dude I agree whole heartedly that if a dealer is putting duct tape on your fkin hard earned money let them do that ** to their own car. You deserve to be put in a fkin Nismo while they try and figure their own BS problem out. Get your money back and go elsewhere. Thats not McGyver due diligence, thats lazy poor * customer service. Get your money and run. __________________ Mag Black Kielbasa

08-01-2010, 09:11 PM	#38 (permalink)
Jessica Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 103 Drives: 10' 370Z & '83 280ZX Rep Power: 15	My husband is an ASE/Nissan Master/GTR tech. As soon as I read the op to him, he said "Thats some shady **." Take it to a different dealer. It may be a drive, but at least you'll get better service. __________________ Love my Zs.**

08-02-2010, 08:17 AM	#40 (permalink)
CUNNART Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 17 Drives: impreza Rep Power: 15	Yeah you need to go to a different dealer. That tech doesn't know what the hell he's doing. And since it's considered it's a come back it is going to keep going to the same tech instead of a new one that might know what the hell he's doing. My guess is the evap canister or pump has a leak. They should be triggering the test and using a sniffer to see if it's actually leaking in the system. If it's not they should then be looking at other components of the system. Obviously it's not the cap or the neck they already replaced those. They are probably doing it to rule out you tampering with it as mentioned before. I once had a car that was setting an evap code and the vacuum hose leading into the canister had a small pin sized hole in it. __________________ Biding my time till I get one. Waiting and watching .

08-03-2010, 06:46 AM	#45 (permalink)
CUNNART Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 17 Drives: impreza Rep Power: 15	Yeah I have heard of the smoke test. If there is no out ward leaks more then likely it's the pump that check the system. It could be an ecu error, but at this point my guess is nissan will replace a majority of the items in the system. Manufacturer's will try a lot of things before they buy back a car, I only ever saw 1 car get bought back. GL though. __________________ Biding my time till I get one. Waiting and watching .

08-02-2010, 02:26 PM	#41 (permalink)
billydsz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Bern Posts: 252 Drives: 9 370z SptCp SRd 7AT Rep Power: 16	I have now officially seen everything. Duct tape. LOL! Insanity!