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Originally Posted by gufazi I plan to drive my Z this winter but I have a question. I know you shouldn't use the stock summer tires on the snow obviously.

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Old 07-22-2010, 12:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I plan to drive my Z this winter but I have a question. I know you shouldn't use the stock summer tires on the snow obviously. But what is the lowest temperature you can safely cruise in. What is the so-called "glass transition" temp for the Bridgestone Potenzas?
Gufazi, you'll be alright in any temperature. Just be aware they just get a little slippy on even dry pavement. I already notice a big difference when the temp is below 50°. The colder the temp, the slippier they are. Snow on the other hand, I was stuck, on a flat surface, in about 1/4" of snow. Seriously.

Someone did put the recommended minimum temp on this forum at some point, I just don't remember the number.
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Gufazi, you'll be alright in any temperature. Just be aware they just get a little slippy on even dry pavement. I already notice a big difference when the temp is below 50°. The colder the temp, the slippier they are. Snow on the other hand, I was stuck, on a flat surface, in about 1/4" of snow. Seriously.

Someone did put the recommended minimum temp on this forum at some point, I just don't remember the number.
You realize that the stock Potenzas will not be "alright in any temperature", and that's patently false. The rubber will become so hard in cold weather, that traction in snow will be next to impossible. It wont be a LITTLE slippery, it'll be a joke and extremely dangerous.
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You realize that the stock Potenzas will not be "alright in any temperature", and that's patently false. The rubber will become so hard in cold weather, that traction in snow will be next to impossible. It wont be a LITTLE slippery, it'll be a joke and extremely dangerous.
The problem with traction in the snow is completely true. In very, very cold DRY weather, it's not like you're just going to go sliding off the road. I've also had the car for two Wisconsin winters. It's been out in temps well below zero. The tires are a little slippy on cold dry roads, but you're not going to die. To reiterate, snow is a completely different story. That's just asking for it.

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Makes sense to me that that you can drive in dry cold weather as long as you take it easy.

For the past 3 years I've ridden my motorcycle on 20-30 degree days and I know those tires are not 4 season rubber. It's really easy to lock up rear or slide around a corner if you're not cautious - but it is manageable.
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The problem with traction in the snow is completely true. In very, very cold DRY weather, it's not like you're just going to go sliding off the road. I've also had the car for two Wisconsin winters. It's been out in temps well below zero. The tires are a little slippy on cold dry roads, but you're not going to die. To reiterate, snow is a completely different story. That's just asking for it.
Well hell of course driving on pavement isnt going to make you slide around COMPLETELY, but driving on ANY snow will be asking for trouble.

So, when it snows, you're completely worthless until all the snow is cleared and melted off the ground - whats the point? Just fork over the $1000 or so and get some decent winter weather tires/wheels and call it good, for safety's sake...
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Well hell of course driving on pavement isnt going to make you slide around COMPLETELY, but driving on ANY snow will be asking for trouble.

So, when it snows, you're completely worthless until all the snow is cleared and melted off the ground - whats the point? Just fork over the $1000 or so and get some decent winter weather tires/wheels and call it good, for safety's sake...
Bobo, I'll just use the other car! That's what Cunnos was originally asking about.
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Well hell of course driving on pavement isnt going to make you slide around COMPLETELY, but driving on ANY snow will be asking for trouble.

So, when it snows, you're completely worthless until all the snow is cleared and melted off the ground - whats the point? Just fork over the $1000 or so and get some decent winter weather tires/wheels and call it good, for safety's sake...
Yea thats what im trying to avoid, or wish I could avoid, but around Boston and especially outside of Boston, where I work, I swear the plow drivers dont care at all. They typically wait for the storm to leave or start plowing halfway through, so the roads absolutely suck. So im not even going to chance ruining the Z or endangering other peoples lives. The other thing, which im sure EVERYONES aware of, is that MA drivers are the worst. I am sure I can handle driving in the snow with snow tires, but you have many people who have no idea how to handle a little snow or slush and freak out, and then bang you end up with a few thousand dollars in damage or worse. Soooooooooooooooooooo thats why i started the thread about what cars people drive in the winter, if they even have a winter at all.
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