Wrap Up: 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring - Long-Term Road Tests

40th370z · 07-21-2010, 09:19 AM

Haven't seen this one posted yet,hope its not a re-post.

Wrap Up: 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring - Article - RoadandTrack.com

spearfish25 · 07-21-2010, 09:27 AM

Very interesting comment in there. I was noticing more whirring noise after installing an oil cooler. Looks like they heard it too. Not sure it's related to engine oil though.

Quote:
For experimental purposes, we measured interior noise both before and after a switch to conventional oil. We found there was a noticeable gain of about six decibels at middle revs in 1st gear but no real discernible difference in maximum cabin loudness. Sans sound meter, some complained about the increase of whirring sounds at low rpm over time, which are reminiscent of radio speaker feedback from an improperly grounded audio system.

Mt Tam I am · 07-21-2010, 09:35 AM

I like criticism number one :
The first downside is probably the most obvious; the 370Z is a true 2-seat sports car.
Gee, I wished I had noticed this before.

370Zapper · 07-21-2010, 09:46 AM

They didn't notice the non-miata doors. Huh.

KillerBee370 · 07-21-2010, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I like criticism number one :
The first downside is probably the most obvious; the 370Z is a true 2-seat sports car.
Gee, I wished I had noticed this before.

I can't even believe the stupity of that statement. If it had been say, a Porsche Carrera with that BS excuse for a back seat, then I could understand that argument but with the 370?? I mean shiit, do they make that same compliant with a Ferrari F430?

Where's that f'in facepalm dude...

kenchan · 07-21-2010, 09:51 AM

they haven't crashed a nismo yet?

red6spd · 07-21-2010, 10:02 AM

I dont get it. I never hear complaining about the S2K's cargo space. Or the cargo space in Vetts or any other exotic car. Who cares about the cargo space, its a SPORTS CAR. And what does this mean "its character in the upper half of its rpm range" there basically saying the engine is ageing.

Jordo! · 07-21-2010, 10:03 AM

Honestly, their point about the noticeable change in engine noise sans Ester special sauce is the only valuable comment.

Cunnos · 07-21-2010, 10:23 AM

Both the editor and person who wrote this article should be fired.

HOW can you write a long term review and have the opening review be "The first downside is probably the most obvious; the 370Z is a true 2-seat sports car. This means that if it doesn’t fit under the rear hatch, it’s going in your passenger seat, or passenger’s lap or it’s not going at all.

LIKE REALLY???? People are not buying this car for its "space", and they are aware of this when purchasing the car.

Second-I am sick and tired of reading articles about sports car (370z, BMW M3, Z4, etc) where the majority of the articles focus on noise. Its a sports car, its not a four door Lexus or Mercedes Benz where cabin noise and comfort are top priority. The people buying these cars are buying them for other reasons, which apparently ARE NOT OBVIOUS to Road and Track.

Lastly, I want to focus on this quote "The source of the Z’s strength is also unfortunately its weakness. The VQ37VHR engine feels like it’s reached the limits of its evolution, largely due to its character in the upper half of its rpm range but also because of its propensity for heat generation"-----Get a grip Road and Track.....Name another car for that price range where you get something like the VQ37VHR engine. THe BMW 3 series put Turbos in their engines and they are still not as good as the Z.

The fact of the matter is Road and Track failed with this long term road test. They neglected to outline any of the important long term aspects that we are all interested in learning about. I will not be reading anymore long term reviews from Road and Track. I would rather make my own presumptions than read an article that points out thee obvious and has no relevant points to list.

96bigbody · 07-21-2010, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunnos

Both the editor and person who wrote this article should be fired.

HOW can you write a long term review and have the opening review be "The first downside is probably the most obvious; the 370Z is a true 2-seat sports car. This means that if it doesn’t fit under the rear hatch, it’s going in your passenger seat, or passenger’s lap or it’s not going at all.

LIKE REALLY???? People are not buying this car for its "space", and they are aware of this when purchasing the car.

Second-I am sick and tired of reading articles about sports car (370z, BMW M3, Z4, etc) where the majority of the articles focus on noise. Its a sports car, its not a four door Lexus or Mercedes Benz where cabin noise and comfort are top priority. The people buying these cars are buying them for other reasons, which apparently ARE NOT OBVIOUS to Road and Track.

Lastly, I want to focus on this quote "The source of the Z’s strength is also unfortunately its weakness. The VQ37VHR engine feels like it’s reached the limits of its evolution, largely due to its character in the upper half of its rpm range but also because of its propensity for heat generation"-----Get a grip Road and Track.....Name another car for that price range where you get something like the VQ37VHR engine. THe BMW 3 series put Turbos in their engines and they are still not as good as the Z.

The fact of the matter is Road and Track failed with this long term road test. They neglected to outline any of the important long term aspects that we are all interested in learning about. I will not be reading anymore long term reviews from Road and Track. I would rather make my own presumptions than read an article that points out thee obvious and has no relevant points to list.

Only v6's or v8's too? I could name a few engines that compare. Also it might just be me but I'd take the bmw's inline 6 turbo over the vq37vhr. I'd like have 320hp and the 332 pound-feet of tq available from 1,200 to 5,000 and it's only a tune away from making more power.

sonic370 · 07-21-2010, 07:44 PM

well its been pretty good but its not perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!

well that statement says it all. would someone point me to a perfect car.
they were holding the z to a level that couldn't be reached.

kenchan · 07-21-2010, 10:49 AM

apparently roadandtrack recently hired people from consumer report...

WarmAndSCSI · 07-21-2010, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

apparently roadandtrack recently hired people from consumer report...

x2

What an idiotic review

And I'm very pleased by the amount of cargo space in our Z. Trumps my Evo X by 2 fold at least. THAT car has pathetic cargo space for what it is.

didymus · 07-21-2010, 01:24 PM

What does any of this have to do with long-term?

dope · 07-21-2010, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by didymus

What does any of this have to do with long-term?

the cargo space in the Z shrinks over the long term

07-21-2010, 09:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
40th370z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 134 Drives: 2010-370z-40th Ann. Rep Power: 298	Wrap Up: 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring - Long-Term Road Tests Haven't seen this one posted yet,hope its not a re-post. Wrap Up: 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring - Article - RoadandTrack.com

07-21-2010, 09:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Very interesting comment in there. I was noticing more whirring noise after installing an oil cooler. Looks like they heard it too. Not sure it's related to engine oil though. Quote: For experimental purposes, we measured interior noise both before and after a switch to conventional oil. We found there was a noticeable gain of about six decibels at middle revs in 1st gear but no real discernible difference in maximum cabin loudness. Sans sound meter, some complained about the increase of whirring sounds at low rpm over time, which are reminiscent of radio speaker feedback from an improperly grounded audio system. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

07-21-2010, 10:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 22	I dont get it. I never hear complaining about the S2K's cargo space. Or the cargo space in Vetts or any other exotic car. Who cares about the cargo space, its a SPORTS CAR. And what does this mean "its character in the upper half of its rpm range" there basically saying the engine is ageing. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

07-21-2010, 10:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	Honestly, their point about the noticeable change in engine noise sans Ester special sauce is the only valuable comment. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

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07-21-2010, 10:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
Cunnos Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: boston,ma Posts: 230 Drives: 2010 370z 40th anniv Rep Power: 16	Both the editor and person who wrote this article should be fired. HOW can you write a long term review and have the opening review be "The first downside is probably the most obvious; the 370Z is a true 2-seat sports car. This means that if it doesn’t fit under the rear hatch, it’s going in your passenger seat, or passenger’s lap or it’s not going at all. LIKE REALLY???? People are not buying this car for its "space", and they are aware of this when purchasing the car. Second-I am sick and tired of reading articles about sports car (370z, BMW M3, Z4, etc) where the majority of the articles focus on noise. Its a sports car, its not a four door Lexus or Mercedes Benz where cabin noise and comfort are top priority. The people buying these cars are buying them for other reasons, which apparently ARE NOT OBVIOUS to Road and Track. Lastly, I want to focus on this quote "The source of the Z’s strength is also unfortunately its weakness. The VQ37VHR engine feels like it’s reached the limits of its evolution, largely due to its character in the upper half of its rpm range but also because of its propensity for heat generation"-----Get a grip Road and Track.....Name another car for that price range where you get something like the VQ37VHR engine. THe BMW 3 series put Turbos in their engines and they are still not as good as the Z. The fact of the matter is Road and Track failed with this long term road test. They neglected to outline any of the important long term aspects that we are all interested in learning about. I will not be reading anymore long term reviews from Road and Track. I would rather make my own presumptions than read an article that points out thee obvious and has no relevant points to list.

07-21-2010, 07:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 19	well its been pretty good but its not perfect!!!!!!!!!!!! well that statement says it all. would someone point me to a perfect car. they were holding the z to a level that couldn't be reached.

07-21-2010, 10:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	apparently roadandtrack recently hired people from consumer report...

07-21-2010, 01:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
didymus Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence / Boston Posts: 564 Drives: 280 / 370Z Rep Power: 306	What does any of this have to do with long-term?