Nissan Tuner Cars Skyline/Silva vs the Z

Jeffblue · 07-19-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyZ

haha if u want a tuner go for a FF import. like a civic. lots of those running real serious parts and actually doing quite well at the track. i personally wouldnt drop an RB into our Zs. lots more power but LOTS of modification and the weight dist would be off. swapping motors as someone said about isnt that simple as oh choose some engine and throw it into another thing. so yeah. if u wanna tune up ur Z u gotta beef up the internals on the engine and then boost it. i know lots of ppl are running decent hp off 6-8 lbs of boost from the gtm tt kits. might be an option there.

I'm not necessarily trying to tune my car right now. I'm really just trying to understand why tuners gravitate towards the skyline/silva instead of the fairlady, but the post below makes sense.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Though all the above stated are all 90% true. There's one giant and much simpler answer than all of the above. The favored bodystyle of most modders are GT cars, not Sports cars. Historically GT has been the most popular mod car. Mostly for the reasons mentioned above, but look at the case of the skyline... it has the same engine and compression ratio as the fairlady. But its still much more popular to mod. That's due to the mod culture started with GT. So that's where enthusiasts gravitate.

That makes sense. I see the appeal of taking a GT car and modding/tuning it to the point where it is more powerful and better handling than a sports car. So do you think the japanese tuner fanboys look at Z's like boring grandpa cars that they could eat for breakfast?, or is it more like 'damn i'd like to have one of those and mod it up'?

Chriz · 07-19-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyZ

haha if u want a tuner go for a FF import. like a civic. lots of those running real serious parts and actually doing quite well at the track. i personally wouldnt drop an RB into our Zs. lots more power but LOTS of modification and the weight dist would be off. swapping motors as someone said about isnt that simple as oh choose some engine and throw it into another thing. so yeah. if u wanna tune up ur Z u gotta beef up the internals on the engine and then boost it. i know lots of ppl are running decent hp off 6-8 lbs of boost from the gtm tt kits. might be an option there.

*cough mkIV*

skyline · 08-11-2010, 02:34 AM

the thing is that the VQ can only handle 1000bhp max and RB can so far handle 1340 bhp at its max

Jeffblue · 08-11-2010, 07:57 AM

haha an un-usable 1000bhp vs 1340 bhp... hmmm which do i want!?

jk i understand what you mean, but ithink 1000 hp is more than anyone except bullit is trying to get out of our engine.

bullitt5897 · 08-11-2010, 09:26 AM

hahahaha thanks for the plug Jeff

Remember guys if your going to build a car it has to be application specific. Mine just happens to be versatile enough to DD and do standing mile runs

theDreamer · 08-11-2010, 09:42 AM

Well it looks like I will be adding a nice car to my collection soon, going over a few things currently and working out all the plans. Along with not destroying the 370z plans to much.

Jeffblue · 08-11-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Well it looks like I will be adding a nice car to my collection soon, going over a few things currently and working out all the plans. Along with not destroying the 370z plans to much.

like what? a silvia or something?

theDreamer · 08-11-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

like what? a silvia or something?

A silvia

Jeffblue · 08-11-2010, 10:55 AM

which model/year? are you gonna do a 240sx conversion or get something JDM?

theDreamer · 08-11-2010, 10:56 AM

Still waiting to hear all the details on it, should have news late this week or middle of next probably, the car will be imported.

Jeffblue · 08-11-2010, 10:59 AM

sick! s15?

theDreamer · 08-11-2010, 11:00 AM

No, going with a S14. The S15 is a really nice car, and of course non-existent here in the States, but I prefer the S14.

Jeffblue · 08-11-2010, 11:07 AM

the s14 is indeed really nice. in terms of aftermarket, the one with the nicer body kit is going to look better so doesn't matter that much where you start. i'd take either.

GingaBreadMan · 08-11-2010, 11:17 AM

I believe turners stay away from the Z because it lacks force induction. If Nissan ever turbo'd the Z it would be in higher demand among tuners. This won't happen cause they don't wanna ruin the market share they have with the GTR. I hate that the Z has so many cpu's attached to it, but I guess this is the sign of the times

theDreamer · 08-11-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

I believe turners stay away from the Z because it lacks force induction. If Nissan ever turbo'd the Z it would be in higher demand among tuners. This won't happen cause they don't wanna ruin the market share they have with the GTR. I hate that the Z has so many cpu's attached to it, but I guess this is the sign of the times

Go look at a lot of other cars, GT-R, most of the Porsche line, BMW, etc. You want to talk about computer controls. Now, with many of those car companies and their cars, there is usually a single button or option which gives you free control of everything.

08-11-2010, 09:26 AM	#20 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	hahahaha thanks for the plug Jeff Remember guys if your going to build a car it has to be application specific. Mine just happens to be versatile enough to DD and do standing mile runs __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

08-11-2010, 09:42 AM	#21 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Well it looks like I will be adding a nice car to my collection soon, going over a few things currently and working out all the plans. Along with not destroying the 370z plans to much. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

08-11-2010, 10:56 AM	#25 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Still waiting to hear all the details on it, should have news late this week or middle of next probably, the car will be imported. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

08-11-2010, 11:00 AM	#27 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	No, going with a S14. The S15 is a really nice car, and of course non-existent here in the States, but I prefer the S14. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

08-11-2010, 11:17 AM	#29 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	I believe turners stay away from the Z because it lacks force induction. If Nissan ever turbo'd the Z it would be in higher demand among tuners. This won't happen cause they don't wanna ruin the market share they have with the GTR. I hate that the Z has so many cpu's attached to it, but I guess this is the sign of the times __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

08-11-2010, 02:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
skyline Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: aest Posts: 3 Drives: 02 skyline r34 m6 Rep Power: 15	the thing is that the VQ can only handle 1000bhp max and RB can so far handle 1340 bhp at its max

08-11-2010, 07:57 AM	#19 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	haha an un-usable 1000bhp vs 1340 bhp... hmmm which do i want!? jk i understand what you mean, but ithink 1000 hp is more than anyone except bullit is trying to get out of our engine.

08-11-2010, 10:55 AM	#24 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	which model/year? are you gonna do a 240sx conversion or get something JDM?

08-11-2010, 10:59 AM	#26 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	sick! s15?

08-11-2010, 11:07 AM	#28 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	the s14 is indeed really nice. in terms of aftermarket, the one with the nicer body kit is going to look better so doesn't matter that much where you start. i'd take either.

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