Dealer Scam? Need advise.

Zaggeron · 07-14-2010, 08:23 PM

Unfortunately unless you get it straightened out with the dealer, it's more or less a "lose/lose" situation for you *unless* they take you to court. If they don't take you to court, they will probably just send the payment request to a collection agency. You can dispute it, but if the dealer insists they didn't receive payment, it won't be resolved and will show up on your credit report.

yellowgold · 07-14-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lt. Dan

If they take you to court, I'd be counter-suing for my time and effort to defend myself!!! I don't know if it would stick or not, but that's B.S. if they sue you.

sue there *** for wasting your time and making you stressed over it, ask your lawyer and see what he will tell you if you can sue them back, after all you got the paperwork that said they received the $1000, does it have any of the morons signature who sold you the car?

zZSoCalZz · 07-14-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowgold

sue there *** for wasting your time and making you stressed over it, ask your lawyer and see what he will tell you if you can sue them back, after all you got the paperwork that said they received the $1000, does it have any of the morons signature who sold you the car?

Yeah I think there's a signature. I'd have to double check but yeah. Need to go see a lawyer. But lets see what the dealer does.

zZSoCalZz · 07-14-2010, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Unfortunately unless you get it straightened out with the dealer, it's more or less a "lose/lose" situation for you *unless* they take you to court. If they don't take you to court, they will probably just send the payment request to a collection agency. You can dispute it, but if the dealer insists they didn't receive payment, it won't be resolved and will show up on your credit report.

Even if I prove to them that the payment was made it will show up on my credit report? Proof with the contract of course. My credit is near perfect... Dayam! this is starting to piss me off more and more.

Zaggeron · 07-14-2010, 08:55 PM

I went through this when I left my old apartment. The apartment claimed I owed money for back water bills. I showed them my lease that specifically showed water included. They said "sorry our books show you owe the money" and sent me to collection. I disputed it, and sent the collection company what I believed to be sufficient proof that I didn't owe the money -- including documentation that showed the apartment bookkeeping was in error. The collection company simply said I had to work it out with the apartment. It went on my credit report as a disputed claim -- disputed, but it still counts against you

sonic370 · 07-14-2010, 09:00 PM

just wondering if dealer turned in all the paper work for the title and such
and you have your tags and everything that is needed for your state.
sounds to me like its a done deal.

zZSoCalZz · 07-14-2010, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaggeron

I went through this when I left my old apartment. The apartment claimed I owed money for back water bills. I showed them my lease that specifically showed water included. They said "sorry our books show you owe the money" and sent me to collection. I disputed it, and sent the collection company what I believed to be sufficient proof that I didn't owe the money -- including documentation that showed the apartment bookkeeping was in error. The collection company simply said I had to work it out with the apartment. It went on my credit report as a disputed claim -- disputed, but it still counts against you

WTFunk??? really? This really sucks... Let me guess the only way to resolve the matter is to pay the collection company? Then I will seriously consider suing them.

zZSoCalZz · 07-14-2010, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370

just wondering if dealer turned in all the paper work for the title and such
and you have your tags and everything that is needed for your state.
sounds to me like its a done deal.

Yeah.. I just received the plates and tags couple days ago.

I hope so.

Zaggeron · 07-14-2010, 09:06 PM

I'm not trying to panic you. You best bet for the best resolution is to talk with the dealer and get it resolved there. Remind them how the hell (without using those words

) they let you drive out of there without paying your down payment.

Edit: If the dealer is reluctant to resolve this, file a report with the Better Business Bureau. Keep a record of all your interactions with the dealership

zZSoCalZz · 07-14-2010, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaggeron

I'm not trying to panic you. You best bet for the best resolution is to talk with the dealer and get it resolved there. Remind them how the hell (without using those words

) they let you drive out of there without paying your down payment.

Edit: If the dealer is reluctant to resolve this, file a report with the Better Business Bureau. Keep a record of all your interactions with the dealership

Thanks. Gonna call the dealer now.

PapoZalsa · 07-14-2010, 09:11 PM

Make a complaint against the dealer thru BBB!!!!
They don't like BBB to get involve because there rating as a business will go down I they will settle if you are right and have the evidence.

I just went thru a similar situation for an amount of about $12,000 that Toyota claimed I owe them(long story). We settled everything using BBB and my credit score was clear.

You will see the results within a few days, no cost to you!

You have the proof of the amount in the paperwork. Also you can PM me for Nissan North America customer service email.

zZSoCalZz · 07-14-2010, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Make a complaint against the dealer thru BBB!!!!
They don't like BBB to get involve because there rating as a business will go down I they will settle if you are right and have the evidence.

I just went thru a similar situation for an amount of about $12,000 that Toyota claimed I owe them(long story). We settled everything using BBB and my credit score was clear.

You will see the results within a few days, no cost to you!

You have the proof of the amount in the paperwork. Also you can PM me for Nissan North America customer service email.

Thanks I will report now.

Also PMing now.

Zaggeron · 07-14-2010, 09:26 PM

Wait until you talk to the dealer. In person -- with your signed purchase receipt. Use the threat of the BBB as a last choice solution. Try in good faith to resolve this with the dealer in person before you do much anything else. A phone call is OK, but an in person visit with all the documentation will prove much more effective.

ProfessorDave · 07-14-2010, 09:42 PM

Around here you can sue, in small claims court (i.e., low court cost), for treble damages if you can prove fraud. Having a signed sales agreement indicating you paid your 1k and being told that there is no record sounds like fraud to me.

zZSoCalZz · 07-14-2010, 09:49 PM

Just filed complaint on BBB.

07-14-2010, 08:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	Unfortunately unless you get it straightened out with the dealer, it's more or less a "lose/lose" situation for you unless they take you to court. If they don't take you to court, they will probably just send the payment request to a collection agency. You can dispute it, but if the dealer insists they didn't receive payment, it won't be resolved and will show up on your credit report. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

07-14-2010, 08:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	I went through this when I left my old apartment. The apartment claimed I owed money for back water bills. I showed them my lease that specifically showed water included. They said "sorry our books show you owe the money" and sent me to collection. I disputed it, and sent the collection company what I believed to be sufficient proof that I didn't owe the money -- including documentation that showed the apartment bookkeeping was in error. The collection company simply said I had to work it out with the apartment. It went on my credit report as a disputed claim -- disputed, but it still counts against you __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

07-14-2010, 09:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	I'm not trying to panic you. You best bet for the best resolution is to talk with the dealer and get it resolved there. Remind them how the hell (without using those words ) they let you drive out of there without paying your down payment. Edit: If the dealer is reluctant to resolve this, file a report with the Better Business Bureau. Keep a record of all your interactions with the dealership __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited Last edited by Zaggeron; 07-14-2010 at 09:08 PM.

07-14-2010, 09:11 PM	#26 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	Make a complaint against the dealer thru BBB!!!! They don't like BBB to get involve because there rating as a business will go down I they will settle if you are right and have the evidence. I just went thru a similar situation for an amount of about $12,000 that Toyota claimed I owe them(long story). We settled everything using BBB and my credit score was clear. You will see the results within a few days, no cost to you! You have the proof of the amount in the paperwork. Also you can PM me for Nissan North America customer service email. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

07-14-2010, 09:26 PM	#28 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	Wait until you talk to the dealer. In person -- with your signed purchase receipt. Use the threat of the BBB as a last choice solution. Try in good faith to resolve this with the dealer in person before you do much anything else. A phone call is OK, but an in person visit with all the documentation will prove much more effective. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

07-14-2010, 09:00 PM	#21 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	just wondering if dealer turned in all the paper work for the title and such and you have your tags and everything that is needed for your state. sounds to me like its a done deal.

07-14-2010, 09:42 PM	#29 (permalink)
ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 19	Around here you can sue, in small claims court (i.e., low court cost), for treble damages if you can prove fraud. Having a signed sales agreement indicating you paid your 1k and being told that there is no record sounds like fraud to me.

07-14-2010, 09:49 PM	#30 (permalink)
zZSoCalZz Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 176 Drives: in traffic! Rep Power: 15	Just filed complaint on BBB. __________________ 2009 MB: Stillen G3 Intake // Customized illuminated kickplates frost blue Z //

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