Stick or Automatic

Jordo! · 07-11-2010, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by darrinps

Oh how I wish this were still true as I loved the performance edge I HAD with a manual, but alas review after review shows the auto .1 to .2 seconds quicker in the quarter and MORE for a guy on the street that doesn't get paid to drag cars on a daily basis.

It pained me to get an auto...it really did...but I like performance and the best reviews I have seen all had autos (and interestingly enough...not the sport package 370s...thinking the extra rotational mass of the Sport package wheels and tires may slow it down a tick).

Anyway, my auto is quick. You should drive one sometime.

Exactamundo.

Whoever is making generalizations about autos and manuals on performance is overlooking the fact that for the 370Z, it has lock up in each gear, so there is virtually no difference in power transfer, as reflected in nearly the same whp for the AT as the MT on the dyno.

Also, the fastest times I've seen listed on here and in magazines all belong to the autos -- less human error and no missed shifts plus about the same power and torque means equal or better performance on the average.

Sorry guys, it may not be a DSG, but the auto on these cars is also not your traditional slushbox, and consequently the AT 370Z's are as fast or faster than the MT's even with a good driver.

zippin · 07-11-2010, 08:15 AM

To me the MT vs AT discussion has nothing to do with which one is faster now a days. The evidence points that both are equal to the task of getting the car down the road. My personal reason for loving the MT. It forces you to pay attention to the task of driving. On a regular basis i see dudes who drive AT's texting, talking on the phone while phone is in hand, or eating a damn burger while driving. If you an MT, your *** is driving and paying attention. Period. Very difficult to drive in traffic and text, talk w/o handsfree or eat if you have a MT. So you end up just driving your car and paying attention to what your vehicle is doing vs. the surroundings. Kinda like it was meant to be. Get yourself an AT and you are guaranteeing a distracted driver.

370zproject · 07-11-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Exactamundo.

Whoever is making generalizations about autos and manuals on performance is overlooking the fact that for the 370Z, it has lock up in each gear, so there is virtually no difference in power transfer, as reflected in nearly the same whp for the AT as the MT on the dyno.

Also, the fastest times I've seen listed on here and in magazines all belong to the autos -- less human error and no missed shifts plus about the same power and torque means equal or better performance on the average.

Sorry guys, it may not be a DSG, but the auto on these cars is also not your traditional slushbox, and consequently the AT 370Z's are as fast or faster than the MT's even with a good driver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippin

To me the MT vs AT discussion has nothing to do with which one is faster now a days. The evidence points that both are equal to the task of getting the car down the road. My personal reason for loving the MT. It forces you to pay attention to the task of driving. On a regular basis i see dudes who drive AT's texting, talking on the phone while phone is in hand, or eating a damn burger while driving. If you an MT, your *** is driving and paying attention. Period. Very difficult to drive in traffic and text, talk w/o handsfree or eat if you have a MT. So you end up just driving your car and paying attention to what your vehicle is doing vs. the surroundings. Kinda like it was meant to be. Get yourself an AT and you are guaranteeing a distracted driver.

i get ur point there wait u would eat in ur Z if u had a auto ?????!!

Nitex · 07-11-2010, 09:49 AM

^ I had to travel from San Antonio to Seattle in 3 days, so i had no choice but to eat in my Z

It was the one day run from vegas that got me!

Lemers · 07-11-2010, 10:39 AM

I haven't eaten in my Z but I have eaten in my other MT cars. Just put the burger in your lap at shitf time.

Chriz · 07-11-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kevr6

I did drive one! I also have a short shifter(remember what I typed). 1/10 of a second...your kidding right! You know you can't feel that. Your actually pushing the arguement for a neglegible difference?
ALso: please provide the link or provide the magazine. I just haven't read that anywhere.
Keep in mind that I drive Audi's DSG all the time so I directly compared the two and didn't like the Z 7AT. Of course I hate the R8's R-tronic also which isn't a DSG. High speed shifting on the R8 sucked w/ that tranny. I loved the R8 manual though!!

here you go

2009 Nissan 370Z Automatic - Short Take Road Test - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

kenchan · 07-11-2010, 11:55 AM

Do you auto guys like to blip throttle before shifting into "D" while at a stop to pretend you are cool like us MT guys?

Diocletian · 07-11-2010, 12:50 PM

I always blip the throttle shifting into gears because it sounds nice in manual mode. Whats with this "D" business?

Do you guys like to never worry about traffic jams in your Z like us AT guys?

Edit: with inclines

frost · 07-11-2010, 12:56 PM

Keep up with the times boys ... sticks are so 1920s.

Lemers · 07-11-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Keep up with the times boys ... sticks are so 1920s.

And automatics are so 1948

frost · 07-11-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

And automatics are so 1948

Yeah, but paddles are so now.

fullmonty · 07-11-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Yeah, but paddles are so now.

Nice to know my paddles are still in vouge

wilsonp · 07-11-2010, 01:52 PM

The Car and Driver tests say 4.6 for 0-60, and they tested 4.9 for the MT and 5.2 for the Nismo, so the AT seems nicely faste most of the time

Interesting to me that the MT fans seem more defensive then the AT posters.

(An AT fan)

Lemers · 07-11-2010, 01:55 PM

Not defensive. Just having a little fun. Really I will buy the MT for as long as MTs are availible. Which is 2012.

shadoquad · 07-11-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

The Car and Driver tests say 4.6 for 0-60, and they tested 4.9 for the MT and 5.2 for the Nismo, so the AT seems nicely faste most of the time

Interesting to me that the MT fans seem more defensive then the AT posters.

(An AT fan)

Both can get a little sensitive at times. I'm a MT guy, and it's not a question of performance for me. It's all about feel and control.

But I don't

on this debate, because I think it's silly on its merits. This car is fun and fast regardless of tranny. And if it's your money to spend, it's your choice imo. Just enjoy what you've got.

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I haven't eaten in my Z but I have eaten in my other MT cars. Just put the burger in your lap at shitf time. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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Diocletian Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 350 Drives: 09 370z CY A7 Rep Power: 15	I always blip the throttle shifting into gears because it sounds nice in manual mode. Whats with this "D" business? Do you guys like to never worry about traffic jams in your Z like us AT guys? Edit: with inclines __________________ Injen Dual CAI \| Illuminated Kick plates \| Stillen Sway bar kit \| F.I TDX w/ 12" Resonators \| F.I HFC's \| UpRev Tune \| 300HP/225tq Mustang Dyno

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Not defensive. Just having a little fun. Really I will buy the MT for as long as MTs are availible. Which is 2012. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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zippin Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 57 Drives: '10 370Z 40th #944 Rep Power: 16	To me the MT vs AT discussion has nothing to do with which one is faster now a days. The evidence points that both are equal to the task of getting the car down the road. My personal reason for loving the MT. It forces you to pay attention to the task of driving. On a regular basis i see dudes who drive AT's texting, talking on the phone while phone is in hand, or eating a damn burger while driving. If you an MT, your *** is driving and paying attention. Period. Very difficult to drive in traffic and text, talk w/o handsfree or eat if you have a MT. So you end up just driving your car and paying attention to what your vehicle is doing vs. the surroundings. Kinda like it was meant to be. Get yourself an AT and you are guaranteeing a distracted driver.

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wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	The Car and Driver tests say 4.6 for 0-60, and they tested 4.9 for the MT and 5.2 for the Nismo, so the AT seems nicely faste most of the time Interesting to me that the MT fans seem more defensive then the AT posters. (An AT fan)