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Jordo! 07-11-2010 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by darrinps (Post 615940)
Oh how I wish this were still true as I loved the performance edge I HAD with a manual, but alas review after review shows the auto .1 to .2 seconds quicker in the quarter and MORE for a guy on the street that doesn't get paid to drag cars on a daily basis.

It pained me to get an auto...it really did...but I like performance and the best reviews I have seen all had autos (and interestingly enough...not the sport package 370s...thinking the extra rotational mass of the Sport package wheels and tires may slow it down a tick).

Anyway, my auto is quick. You should drive one sometime.

Exactamundo.

Whoever is making generalizations about autos and manuals on performance is overlooking the fact that for the 370Z, it has lock up in each gear, so there is virtually no difference in power transfer, as reflected in nearly the same whp for the AT as the MT on the dyno.

Also, the fastest times I've seen listed on here and in magazines all belong to the autos -- less human error and no missed shifts plus about the same power and torque means equal or better performance on the average.

Sorry guys, it may not be a DSG, but the auto on these cars is also not your traditional slushbox, and consequently the AT 370Z's are as fast or faster than the MT's even with a good driver.

zippin 07-11-2010 07:15 AM

To me the MT vs AT discussion has nothing to do with which one is faster now a days. The evidence points that both are equal to the task of getting the car down the road. My personal reason for loving the MT. It forces you to pay attention to the task of driving. On a regular basis i see dudes who drive AT's texting, talking on the phone while phone is in hand, or eating a damn burger while driving. If you an MT, your *** is driving and paying attention. Period. Very difficult to drive in traffic and text, talk w/o handsfree or eat if you have a MT. So you end up just driving your car and paying attention to what your vehicle is doing vs. the surroundings. Kinda like it was meant to be. Get yourself an AT and you are guaranteeing a distracted driver.

370zproject 07-11-2010 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 617374)
Exactamundo.

Whoever is making generalizations about autos and manuals on performance is overlooking the fact that for the 370Z, it has lock up in each gear, so there is virtually no difference in power transfer, as reflected in nearly the same whp for the AT as the MT on the dyno.

Also, the fastest times I've seen listed on here and in magazines all belong to the autos -- less human error and no missed shifts plus about the same power and torque means equal or better performance on the average.

Sorry guys, it may not be a DSG, but the auto on these cars is also not your traditional slushbox, and consequently the AT 370Z's are as fast or faster than the MT's even with a good driver.

:)

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Originally Posted by zippin (Post 617387)
To me the MT vs AT discussion has nothing to do with which one is faster now a days. The evidence points that both are equal to the task of getting the car down the road. My personal reason for loving the MT. It forces you to pay attention to the task of driving. On a regular basis i see dudes who drive AT's texting, talking on the phone while phone is in hand, or eating a damn burger while driving. If you an MT, your *** is driving and paying attention. Period. Very difficult to drive in traffic and text, talk w/o handsfree or eat if you have a MT. So you end up just driving your car and paying attention to what your vehicle is doing vs. the surroundings. Kinda like it was meant to be. Get yourself an AT and you are guaranteeing a distracted driver.

i get ur point there wait u would eat in ur Z if u had a auto ?????!!

Nitex 07-11-2010 08:49 AM

^ I had to travel from San Antonio to Seattle in 3 days, so i had no choice but to eat in my Z :shakes head:

It was the one day run from vegas that got me!

Lemers 07-11-2010 09:39 AM

I haven't eaten in my Z but I have eaten in my other MT cars. Just put the burger in your lap at shitf time.

Chriz 07-11-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 617369)
I did drive one! I also have a short shifter(remember what I typed). 1/10 of a second...your kidding right! You know you can't feel that. Your actually pushing the arguement for a neglegible difference?
ALso: please provide the link or provide the magazine. I just haven't read that anywhere.
Keep in mind that I drive Audi's DSG all the time so I directly compared the two and didn't like the Z 7AT. Of course I hate the R8's R-tronic also which isn't a DSG. High speed shifting on the R8 sucked w/ that tranny. I loved the R8 manual though!!

here you go :vuvuzela2:
2009 Nissan 370Z Automatic - Short Take Road Test - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

kenchan 07-11-2010 10:55 AM

Do you auto guys like to blip throttle before shifting into "D" while at a stop to pretend you are cool like us MT guys? :D

Diocletian 07-11-2010 11:50 AM

I always blip the throttle shifting into gears because it sounds nice in manual mode. Whats with this "D" business?

Do you guys like to never worry about traffic jams in your Z like us AT guys?

Edit: with inclines

frost 07-11-2010 11:56 AM

http://clarification.files.wordpress...on-despair.jpg

Keep up with the times boys ... sticks are so 1920s.

Lemers 07-11-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 617610)
http://clarification.files.wordpress...on-despair.jpg

Keep up with the times boys ... sticks are so 1920s.

And automatics are so 1948

frost 07-11-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 617627)
And automatics are so 1948

Yeah, but paddles are so now. :happydance:

fullmonty 07-11-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 617631)
Yeah, but paddles are so now. :happydance:

Nice to know my paddles are still in vouge

wilsonp 07-11-2010 12:52 PM

The Car and Driver tests say 4.6 for 0-60, and they tested 4.9 for the MT and 5.2 for the Nismo, so the AT seems nicely faste most of the time :)

Interesting to me that the MT fans seem more defensive then the AT posters.

(An AT fan)

Lemers 07-11-2010 12:55 PM

Not defensive. Just having a little fun. Really I will buy the MT for as long as MTs are availible. Which is 2012.

shadoquad 07-11-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 617736)
The Car and Driver tests say 4.6 for 0-60, and they tested 4.9 for the MT and 5.2 for the Nismo, so the AT seems nicely faste most of the time :)

Interesting to me that the MT fans seem more defensive then the AT posters.

(An AT fan)

Both can get a little sensitive at times. I'm a MT guy, and it's not a question of performance for me. It's all about feel and control.

But I don't :stirthepot: on this debate, because I think it's silly on its merits. This car is fun and fast regardless of tranny. And if it's your money to spend, it's your choice imo. Just enjoy what you've got.


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