Vdc

frost · 07-02-2010, 02:33 PM

^ Didn't have VDC on.

shadoquad · 07-02-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

^ Didn't have VDC on.

m4a1mustang · 07-02-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

OMG that's hilarious.

fullmonty · 07-02-2010, 02:45 PM

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HAHAHAHA

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-02-2010, 03:12 PM

Some people act like without the vdc, this car is as dangerous as riding a bull. Happy days shoulda made the episode.... Fonzi's gonna drive the Z! Lmao!
Surely the VDC is an excellent piece of safety software and its accident avoidance capability coupled with a skilled driver is second to none, BUT in the end. If u r dependant on a computer to keep your high horsepower car in check. Then its time to go back to. Honda civic, chevy cobalt or whatever tame commuter u started off with.
VDC being the end all be all in safety is a failed driving mentality.

frost · 07-02-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Some people act like without the vdc, this car is as dangerous as riding a bull. Happy days shoulda made the episode.... Fonzi's gonna drive the Z! Lmao!
Surely the VDC is an excellent piece of safety software and its accident avoidance capability coupled with a skilled driver is second to none, BUT in the end. If u r dependant on a computer to keep your high horsepower car in check. Then its time to go back to. Honda civic, chevy cobalt or whatever tame commuter u started off with.
VDC being the end all be all in safety is a failed driving mentality.

And there is the problem. With a car like a corvette, camaro SS, etc., this is not their first real sports car. Guys who move up through the HP ranks have an awesome traction control ... their right foot.
But what I see from this board is that many of the people move up from mommy-mobiles straight to the Z. While it's not a beast of a car, it's definitely enough to get in trouble to inexperienced drivers. I've been a member of a lot of car boards in the last 8-ish years, and I've never seen another car where so many people totaled them in such a quick time.

PapoZalsa · 07-02-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You and me both, frost. You and me both.

I wipe my *** with $100 bills.

WOW, you are going to need Preparation H pretty soon....

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Originally Posted by frost

And there is the problem. With a car like a corvette, camaro SS, etc., this is not their first real sports car. Guys who move up through the HP ranks have an awesome traction control ... their right foot.
But what I see from this board is that many of the people move up from mommy-mobiles straight to the Z. While it's not a beast of a car, it's definitely enough to get in trouble to inexperienced drivers. I've been a member of a lot of car boards in the last 8-ish years, and I've never seen another car where so many people totaled them in such a quick time.

shadow2k · 07-04-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

And there is the problem. With a car like a corvette, camaro SS, etc., this is not their first real sports car. Guys who move up through the HP ranks have an awesome traction control ... their right foot.
But what I see from this board is that many of the people move up from mommy-mobiles straight to the Z. While it's not a beast of a car, it's definitely enough to get in trouble to inexperienced drivers. I've been a member of a lot of car boards in the last 8-ish years, and I've never seen another car where so many people totaled them in such a quick time.

While what you say is true, it isn't what is being expressed when the topic of VDC comes up. Most of the posters here seem to believe VDC off = death. It's pretty annoying to get ragged on for turning it off as if I'm committing a mortal sin when they're the ones who don't know how to drive. I know full well how to handle a car without any help from a nanny.

For people who know how to drive, turning off VDC just gives you more control. If you know how to control the car, there is no issue. If you haven't had the experience to learn how yet, leave the thing on until you do.

Mt Tam I am · 07-04-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

And there is the problem. With a car like a corvette, camaro SS, etc., this is not their first real sports car. Guys who move up through the HP ranks have an awesome traction control ... their right foot.
But what I see from this board is that many of the people move up from mommy-mobiles straight to the Z. While it's not a beast of a car, it's definitely enough to get in trouble to inexperienced drivers. I've been a member of a lot of car boards in the last 8-ish years, and I've never seen another car where so many people totaled them in such a quick time.

Another Quote: Originally Posted by semtex
Personally, I learned to drive way before traction control, stability control, even ABS, were commonly available on cars. So I don't think it's dumb to turn off VDC. Rather, not learning basic car control and vehicle dynamics is what's dumb. But I think that says more about the sad state of driver education in this country than anything else. Truth be told, it's a bit of a double-edged sword. On one hand, if one is a relatively new driver and doesn't have experience with controlling powerful rwd cars, then one should probably leave VDC on. But on the other hand, if one doesn't turn it off from time to time, how is one to learn from the experience of having to apply opposite lock to tuck the tail back in, etc.? The best way to learn how to do something is by doing it, right?

Thank you all for commentary. I did find an older thread and read through it. This subject seems like a technology issue. Just as some can not imagine a life without cell phones, internet and now driving without VDC. I grew up driving rwd cars, Z cars for 30 years and reckon similar to Frost and Semtex (others too). The VDC may work best for me in wet conditions. The rest of the time I hate to have a computer try and outthink my intentions.
Day one driving home from the dealership, I triggered the VDC when I tried to throw the rear end out. I immediately looked, unsuccessfully, for a button that read "Traction controll" or "Stability" something intuitive. I thought I had just wasted my money on this new car. Thankfully I found the manuel. VDC is not intuitive to me, but can be turned off.

frost · 07-04-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow2k

While what you say is true, it isn't what is being expressed when the topic of VDC comes up. Most of the posters here seem to believe VDC off = death. It's pretty annoying to get ragged on for turning it off as if I'm committing a mortal sin when they're the ones who don't know how to drive. I know full well how to handle a car without any help from a nanny.

For people who know how to drive, turning off VDC just gives you more control. If you know how to control the car, there is no issue. If you haven't had the experience to learn how yet, leave the thing on until you do.

No disagreement here. People who really know how to drive can certainly turn VDC off and have a good time getting a little loose. Only problem is everyone thinks they know how to drive

I'm not talking about the OP, the guy could be a world class drifter for all I know, I'm just speaking in generalities.

Xan · 07-04-2010, 12:36 PM

vdc site:the370z.com - Google Search

LunaZ · 07-04-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Another Quote: Originally Posted by semtex
Personally, I learned to drive way before traction control, stability control, even ABS, were commonly available on cars. So I don't think it's dumb to turn off VDC. Rather, not learning basic car control and vehicle dynamics is what's dumb. But I think that says more about the sad state of driver education in this country than anything else. Truth be told, it's a bit of a double-edged sword. On one hand, if one is a relatively new driver and doesn't have experience with controlling powerful rwd cars, then one should probably leave VDC on. But on the other hand, if one doesn't turn it off from time to time, how is one to learn from the experience of having to apply opposite lock to tuck the tail back in, etc.? The best way to learn how to do something is by doing it, right?

Thank you all for commentary. I did find an older thread and read through it. This subject seems like a technology issue. Just as some can not imagine a life without cell phones, internet and now driving without VDC. I grew up driving rwd cars, Z cars for 30 years and reckon similar to Frost and Semtex (others too). The VDC may work best for me in wet conditions. The rest of the time I hate to have a computer try and outthink my intentions.
Day one driving home from the dealership, I triggered the VDC when I tried to throw the rear end out. I immediately looked, unsuccessfully, for a button that read "Traction controll" or "Stability" something intuitive. I thought I had just wasted my money on this new car. Thankfully I found the manuel. VDC is not intuitive to me, but can be turned off.

I too am an "old guy" who cut his teeth driving and racing cars and bikes that lacked technological aids like ABS, VDC and SRM.
I love SRM and personally, I'm a fan of the VDC.
When you're smooth, you know the system is working, but you don't feel that it's interfering; it actually feels like it's helping you go faster by aiding in car control.
Just this morning, I was raving about how nice the system was as I trail braked to set the nose into a left-right series and started applying the power slightly before the apex as I got the car pointed towards the next turn.
VDC FTW!

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Some people act like without the vdc, this car is as dangerous as riding a bull. Happy days shoulda made the episode.... Fonzi's gonna drive the Z! Lmao! Surely the VDC is an excellent piece of safety software and its accident avoidance capability coupled with a skilled driver is second to none, BUT in the end. If u r dependant on a computer to keep your high horsepower car in check. Then its time to go back to. Honda civic, chevy cobalt or whatever tame commuter u started off with. VDC being the end all be all in safety is a failed driving mentality.