overheated 370/no oil part 2

Zaggeron · 07-01-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

(5) A combination -- not enough oil was put in, you were burning what little there was from improper ring sealing, etc. finally insufficient lubrication led to toasted bearings.

Get a lawyer.

And a leakdown test/teardown.

That's my current theory. When he got his oil changed they didn't put in enough and that caused the rest to slowly burn off.

DakillaZ · 07-01-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Yes, and the world is full of sad stories of people who relied on them. The sending units can fail. I'm not sure whether they can be damaged by a botched oil change.

Assuming the sensor or light failed and the failure of the oil pressure sensor or light was Nissan's fault, are they responsible for your engine running out of oil if losing that oil was the result of negligence by some third party?

i changed my oil every 4000 miles did everything in the book its not my fault the oil light didnt come upp i have pappers to prove my oilchanges. it iss indeed nissans fault not mine ...but even when they give me a new engine im goin to get a lemon lawyer ...who knws what other defects this car hass

BGTV8 · 07-01-2010, 10:15 PM

PEBCAK .... and if you need to figure it out, go to

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If there is no oil in the sump, either there never was any oil in the sump from the last time it was drained (and not refilled - either partially or completely), or it has been burned and the exhaust pipes will show oil traces, or it leaked out and there will be oil traces under the vehicle.

The only other option is leprechauns .... but since you-awl are in the good ole YewSay, I think I can safely rule them out ...

So you are left with only 3 options ... and if there is no oil on the underside the car, and no trace of oil in the exhaust system, there is only one explanation .... an incompletely filled sump after the last oil change. The fact that there was no low oil pressure warning light needs to be investgated as the electrical connector from the oil pressure switch, or the oil pressure switch itself may have failed.

I would go see a member of the legal profession ..... and consult an independent mechanic to check the circuitry to the oil pressure sender and the sender itself.

The other lesson - get into the habit of a simple weekly check: 1) oil dipstick, 2) radiator water level in the overflow tank; 3) tyre pressures; 4) screen washer bottle water level; 5) brake fluid levels and 6) power steering oil reservoir ......... takes 5 minutes .... and can help avoid this sort of nightmare ....

Jordo! · 07-01-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Engine output actually may not be affected by poor ring sealing which is causing oil consumption. Depends which rings are at fault. Failure or poor sealing of the oil control ring and/or the 2nd compression ring can cause oil consumption, but not necessarily a large loss of power since most of the cylinder sealing is accomplished by the top/1st compression ring. Power WILL be lost by inadequate oiling of the wrist pin, piston skirt, etc. in those cases, however. But that power loss would be negligible until you had a wrist pin seize on you.

Thanks for the clarification -- expertise is always relative, so it's good to talk to someone I can learn a thing or two (or three) from

Zaggeron · 07-01-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DakillaZ

i changed my oil every 4000 miles did everything in the book its not my fault the oil light didnt come upp i have pappers to prove my oilchanges. it iss indeed nissans fault not mine ...but even when they give me a new engine im goin to get a lemon lawyer ...who knws what other defects this car hass

I believe you have a case, but not necessarily against Nissan. You may be able to show that not enough oil was put in at your last oil change. Based on the various comments from folks here who know what they are talking about, it is highly unlikely that your engine lost 5 full quarts in 3 months with no outward signs. The likely culprit is too little oil was put in after the change. If this is the case, your beef is with your oil change place.

Trips · 07-01-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

I believe you have a case, but not necessarily against Nissan. You may be able to show that not enough oil was put in at your last oil change. Based on the various comments from folks here who know what they are talking about, it is highly unlikely that your engine lost 5 full quarts in 3 months with no outward signs. The likely culprit is too little oil was put in after the change. If this is the case, your beef is with your oil change place.

Free car washes for life.

Zaggeron · 07-01-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

Free car washes for life.

Sibze · 07-01-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

Free car washes for life.

Lol that would be great aslong as they do a good job! Every time my car got a little dirt on it I would be running to them lol

mdbrich · 07-01-2010, 11:25 PM

Everyplace I go usually shows you the dipstick at Full.. After that its up to you

Sibze · 07-01-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mdbrich

Everyplace I go usually shows you the dipstick at Full.. After that its up to you

That’s a good point! My winter beater goes to the place that has a sale when it needs an oil change and most places always show the dipstick. Funny the dealer doesn't do this!

Maybe that’s a best practice for all of us; always have them show you the dipstick before leaving!

Zaggeron · 07-01-2010, 11:30 PM

Or check it yourself before you leave the premises ... either way. But really, no insult to OP, I wouldn't let a car wash joint *wash* my Z much less touch the engine.

kenchan · 07-01-2010, 11:57 PM

you will be amazed how a lot of guys dont know how to check oil level...

PapoZalsa · 07-02-2010, 12:14 AM

Again, this thread is going like the first one!

IBTL

Trips · 07-02-2010, 12:17 AM

It's been a little more civilized than the last one. lol

Sibze · 07-02-2010, 12:19 AM

I think as long as we can keep on topic - which is sometimes hard lol. He is asking legit questions!

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