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DakillaZ 06-30-2010 06:39 PM

370 overheated/no oil
 
i had a loud ping noise coming from the engine sounded like the pistons where about to jump out my engine block so i quickly took the car to the dealer nd they told their was no oil in the car....i always changed the oil on time about every 4000 miles the car has only 18000 miles on...alsoo their was no check oil or engine light that ever came upp. this is unbeliveable

Horseface 06-30-2010 06:49 PM

Do you have the touring package?

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 06:51 PM

yupp fully loaded 6sp

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 07:05 PM

they say i need a new engine wich coasts 11grand nd are tryin to say that its a lack of maitance nd its my fault.. this deffenatly has to be me a lemon nd/or due to the oil cooler issue ...nissan better give me a new z or there gunna have this one sitting infront of there dealer ship with a string of lemons around it sayin "i bought this pice of junnk here." nd a big time lawsuit

nogoodname 06-30-2010 07:05 PM

Did you have all the oil changes at the dealership?

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 07:07 PM

no i havent but got all the papers too prove that it has been changed

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 07:15 PM

i didnt buy a $40,000 car to have it overheat nd blow up on me. im extreamly angry and want answers asapp...im sure it will happen more frequently down the road to more 370 owners... nissan has thier hands full with this one

Jordo! 06-30-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Horseface (Post 600709)
Do you have the touring package?

Why does that matter? Better warning lights? :confused:

To the OP -- sounds like either the oil pump failed or you had a major oil leak somewhere... the dealership just claimed that the crankcase was dry??? :icon14:

shabarivas 06-30-2010 07:20 PM

not likely if you actually maintain your car... I change my oil about every 1500 miles... So far I havnt really lost much... I thrash this thing in the canyons as much as possible and I do not have a light foot.

You def got an abnormal one or just didnt notice something serious. If you can prove the oil was changed correctly I dont see why nissan wouldnt cover this one. GL and keep us updated.

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 07:21 PM

their was not a drip of oil leaking from anywhere...what do you mean dry crankcase

Jordo! 06-30-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DakillaZ (Post 600740)
their was not a drip of oil leaking from anywhere...what do you mean dry crankcase

I mean, was the engine just pretty much bone dry? No obvious mchanical failure?

The oil had to go somewhere if it was in there... I can't imagine you had it all evaporate as blow-by... either something failed (a seal, the pump, etc.) or you punched a hole in the oil pan while driving (hit any big bumps, potholes?).

The problem is, if there is no clear evidence of mechanical failure, it may be tough to prove you simply didn't run it without oil...

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 600737)
not likely if you actually maintain your car... I change my oil about every 1500 miles... So far I havnt really lost much... I thrash this thing in the canyons as much as possible and I do not have a light foot.

You def got an abnormal one or just didnt notice something serious. If you can prove the oil was changed correctly I dont see why nissan wouldnt cover this one. GL and keep us updated.

changing your oil every 1500 is completly uncalled for ,nd trust me their was nothing serious goin on i didnt even have a check oil light. the pistons reddy to burst out the engine still no check engine light i think the cpu missed something serious lol ...

shabarivas 06-30-2010 07:33 PM

hahahah that's like saying detailing your car too much is bad... I don't think you understand when I say I flog my car - I really do flog it... I red-line it once or twice per trip...

Different strokes for different folks my friend. But she runs like butter and frequent oil changes never hurt anything. My first ~4000 miles I changed the oil once every 1000 miles - you will never believe how much metal filings came out of the engine. I am happy to be able to spoil my car with frequent oil changes ... I understand not everyone does it that frequently - but a few extra bucks is a petty amount to pay for peace of mind.

HKYStormFront 06-30-2010 07:33 PM

if you have the records showing that you changed the oil and recorded the mileages, then you should be fine. if the dealership gives you grief, get on the horn with NNA using their 1-800 number. if you don't, you are probably screwed. and the ECU is mostly looking for things that are related emissions and the sensors that effect them so a SES light would probably not come on unless it was from an o2 fault in combo with knock sensor. the oil pressure light should have come on if there was that much of a problem though.

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 600758)
hahahah that's like saying detailing your car too much is bad... I don't think you understand when I say I flog my car - I really do flog it... I red-line it once or twice per trip...

Different strokes for different folks my friend. But she runs like butter and frequent oil changes never hurt anything. My first ~4000 miles I changed the oil once every 1000 miles - you will never believe how much metal filings came out of the engine. I am happy to be able to spoil my car with frequent oil changes ... I understand not everyone does it that frequently - but a few extra bucks is a petty amount to pay for peace of mind.

actuallly detailing your car to much is bad for the paint lol nd im sorry i dont have $1500 extra a year just on oilchanges alone i do have a life other than cars you knw .......awaysssss the dealer is chekin the oil pan i hope this is nott a big headach

flashburn 06-30-2010 08:25 PM

Well if you were indeed running the engine without any oil, then you can definitely expect some big headaches, either now, or further down the line.

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 600846)
Well if you were indeed running the engine without any oil, then you can definitely expect some big headaches, either now, or further down the line.

i changed the oill my friend nd even if i didnt their is no excuse in the world that the oil light didnt come onn ...it should automatically come on with 3 qts of oil left

spearfish25 06-30-2010 08:56 PM

You might just want to claim this under your insurance policy while you sort out the Nissan lawsuit.

nolan1016 06-30-2010 09:11 PM

I'm surprised you can afford a 40,000 dollar car with your god awful spelling. May I ask who has ever payed you 40k, when you spell every word in a sentence wrong?

Maybe where ever you got the oil done forgot to put the new oil in. Drained it and then let you drive off. Improbable but possible.

getmecoffee 06-30-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nolan1016 (Post 600931)
I'm surprised you can afford a 40,000 dollar car with your god awful spelling. May I ask who has ever payed you 40k, when you spell every word in a sentence wrong?

Maybe where ever you got the oil done forgot to put the new oil in. Drained it and then let you drive off. Improbable but possible.

What a ****! C'mon the dude is freaking out and yet you think it's a good time to belittle him....seriously.

TreeSemdyZee 06-30-2010 09:28 PM

I'm going to have to say that if you changed your own oil, you really don't have much of a leg to stand on honestly. Relying on the oil light to tell you that your oil is low is like playing Russian Roulette with 5 bullets. That's what they make a dipstick for.
Do you change the crush washer when you change your oil? That's the first thought that came to my mind was that all of the oil leaked around the filter. Just a WAG, but something to ponder. I would sure do my best before they try to clean of any part of the engine to figure out where the oil came out. If you had actually burned that much oil, you would have noticed it, so I think leaking is your only option.

PapoZalsa 06-30-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nolan1016 (Post 600931)
I'm surprised you can afford a 40,000 dollar car with your god awful spelling. May I ask who has ever payed you 40k, when you spell every word in a sentence wrong?

Maybe where ever you got the oil done forgot to put the new oil in. Drained it and then let you drive off. Improbable but possible.


OH boy! IBTL



However, I check my oil regularly. If there is a drastic oil consumption I will notify or go by the dealer so it can be place on my car records. ;)

jpit 06-30-2010 09:28 PM

When did you last have the oil changed? It seems to me when you change the oil there are three possible scenarios that could cause this problem: 1) the drain plug fell out; 2) the oil filter was installed wrong (old gasket was still attached, etc.) 3) the oil fill cap wasn't put back on (although I don't think all the oil could escaped that way). Any of these problems would leave oil all over the place. Very curious in what they find.

TreeSemdyZee 06-30-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nolan1016 (Post 600931)
I'm surprised you can afford a 40,000 dollar car with your god awful spelling. May I ask who has ever payed you 40k, when you spell every word in a sentence wrong?

Maybe where ever you got the oil done forgot to put the new oil in. Drained it and then let you drive off. Improbable but possible.

paid.
wherever. ;)

scruggyj 06-30-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 600993)
paid.
wherever. ;)


I laughed so hard my wife ask me what was so funny!!!!!!!:icon18:

VCuomo 06-30-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 600993)
paid.
wherever. ;)

And "God-awful". ;)

VCuomo 06-30-2010 10:22 PM

When did you last check the oil level?

Also, something smells fishy here. Did the dealer say they found a leak? If not, they are trying to say that since you last checked your oil level you've burned around 5 quarts of oil - is there any evidence of that (like carbon deposits on the exhaust tips)? Did you notice any smoke out the tailpipe?

I think your dealer is full of shite... Have the car towed to another dealer or an independent mechanic that you trust and have them look at the car.

RCZ 06-30-2010 10:29 PM

our of curiosity...what did your oil temp gauge read?

zero 06-30-2010 10:34 PM

This is weird that it was trace of oil leaking or burning. Maybe someone forgot putting the new oil after draining the old oil.

PapoZalsa 06-30-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zero (Post 601135)
This is weird that it was trace of oil leaking or burning. Maybe someone forgot putting the new oil after draining the old oil.

That is why I always check the dipstick if I take the car to the dealer for an oil change.

kenchan 06-30-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 601113)
When did you last check the oil level?

my thoughts exactly...

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolan1016 (Post 600931)
I'm surprised you can afford a 40,000 dollar car with your god awful spelling. May I ask who has ever payed you 40k, when you spell every word in a sentence wrong?

Maybe where ever you got the oil done forgot to put the new oil in. Drained it and then let you drive off. Improbable but possible.

sukk mii ballss hows that for spelling

HKYStormFront 06-30-2010 10:46 PM

that's a productive response :\

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 600993)
paid.
wherever. ;)

lmaoooooo seriously this is why i hate fourms cause *** wholes like him

jpit 06-30-2010 10:50 PM

That's not going to help things...

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zero (Post 601135)
This is weird that it was trace of oil leaking or burning. Maybe someone forgot putting the new oil after draining the old oil.

this is not possible i had the last oil change about 3 months ago the engine would have been fried the next day if this was the case

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 600982)
I'm going to have to say that if you changed your own oil, you really don't have much of a leg to stand on honestly. Relying on the oil light to tell you that your oil is low is like playing Russian Roulette with 5 bullets. That's what they make a dipstick for.
Do you change the crush washer when you change your oil? That's the first thought that came to my mind was that all of the oil leaked around the filter. Just a WAG, but something to ponder. I would sure do my best before they try to clean of any part of the engine to figure out where the oil came out. If you had actually burned that much oil, you would have noticed it, so I think leaking is your only option.

i didnt change my own oill.. the place i got it done ive been using for a very long time never had a problem with them...infact i took the carr back to them nd the put it on the lift right infront of me nd showed me no leak whats soo ever... the owner is more than willing to help me out if nissan gives me a hard time

TreeSemdyZee 06-30-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DakillaZ (Post 601204)
i didnt change my own oill.. the place i got it done ive been using for a very long time never had a problem with them...infact i took the carr back to them nd the put it on the lift right infront of me nd showed me no leak whats soo ever... the owner is more than willing to help me out if nissan gives me a hard time

Gotcha.
Well. I hope it all works out OK. My brother had this issue with a Saturn that he used to own. He had the oil changed at the dealer and the seal on the oil filter blew out and dumped the entire load of oil.

DakillaZ 06-30-2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 601120)
our of curiosity...what did your oil temp gauge read?

200_230 depends

tbonesteak 06-30-2010 11:52 PM

^^ we mean when the engine blew, what was the oil temp gauge reading?


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