Hope Nissan is watching this...

tbonesteak

what Daisuke said two posts up. Hyundai has come up at a rate that no other auto manufacturers have ever done so in the past, especially after a completely ruined image (which in the car world is pretty much game over for a company). Their cars are brilliant and backed by the best warranty. They are now the 5th biggest auto maker in the world and ain't goin anywhere for a long long time. While i admit my 370 is superior to the gc in every performance aspect, i admit that they are legit and offer very high quality products (perceived from both real life experiences and countless media reviews). A true car guy would not bash on something that they are biased purely on their opinion. "30-40x the racing heritage".....are you kidding me? that is the most retarded logic i have ever heard in my life.

Gunzero

Nobody cares what you guys drive. Just live your life according to you. Don't let other people dictate what you choose. These 2 cars are badass

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Jeffblue

I dont think the genesis is a nice car and i dont think that they intended it to be some sort of budget Z Killer. Compare this to an altima coupe, or a honda accord coupe and it runs laps around them. I think its really supposed to run laps around the FWD wanna be sporty coupes that just aren't, and that it does. I'd take a GC over an altima coupe or accord coupe or eclipse any day.

Stupid mens magazines make these dumb comparisons just for the sake of it. its not car enthusiasts that do it.

I feel like a GC owner would be more likely to look at an accord coupe and think like 'hah i spent the same amount of money and got RWD handling and more power than your practical 2 door version of a sedan' rather than looking at a Z and going 'HAH I could totally destroy that Z on the track!'

toxik

^ some of the Gen coupe owners I talked to think their car is Lambo status and better than anything out there. Someone even told me my Z is ugly compared to their Genesis.

I still think that GC is a nice car, but I agree, if it has 4 seats it should not be compared to a Z in any way shape or form.

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shadoquad

I test drove the Genny against the Z.

In the end, I think the Z looks and performs better. But I liked the Genny, and if Hyundai refine its build and performance further, its future is very bright indeed!

Jeffblue

Agreed. There are people with riced out civics that thing their cars are lambo status and are better than anything else. Ultimately, they know its not. If i pull up to a 911, The guy can look over at my car, think its a really nice car, but he knows its better, and i know his is better too. If i pull up to a genesis, and made eye contact i'd definitely say, nice car. and i think that MOST genesis owners, deep down, know that the Z is a better car.

shadow2k

Every other car I looked at before buying the Z had 4 seats. I'm not the only guy that didn't cross cars off his list because they had a back seat.

The GC was actually a car I looked at briefly. Unfortunately it is ugly both inside and out to me, so it got crossed off pretty quick. But remember, it is not expensive, it has power, and it has a superb warranty. Those three things will draw more people in than the Z's heritage. Your rep will only get you so far. It would not surprise me in the least to see a 429hp GC outsell the 370z in the states unless Nissan bumped the power output.

toxik

fine by me, i don't want nissan to make the Z an attractive car to the masses, I want it to be an enthusiast car, which only a lucky few choose to own.

my biggest gripe with the genesis, and why in the end I think a Z is a better car, even without the looks, power, etc.... I think the Genesis is trying too hard to be what is already out. The points they copied from various other car manufacturers are so blatant... its trying to be G37 too much. Hey Hyundai why don't you make something original, same as what Nissan and Infiniti have been doing, they are not trying to look like a BMW or whoever their competition is. The Z doesn't look like anything else on the road, I can't say that for the Gen.

And for those that got a Gen because it's cheap for a RWD sports car... cheap and sports car should not be in the same sentence imho.

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shadoquad

You're probably not a big fan of Miatas, then, are you?

I have no problem with affordable performance.

My only gripe with the genny was build quality and design. Also, it was hard to locate one with a manual tranny and the 6-banger in my area.

toxik

miata handling ftw... great car to get for an 18 year old as a first car.

i just don't think sports cars are meant to be cheap.

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Jeffblue

WORD. seriously, i dont have too much of a problem with the Genesis coupe in particular. But the one thing that really grinds my gears about hyundai is that the copy everyone elses designs. I quite honestly don't understand how they don't get sued by other companies for overtly taking design elements from their cars

tbonesteak

Good man....miatas are one of the greatest enthusiast cars ever made and they are damn cheap. So was the s2000. At their final 2 yrs of production, you could walk out with a brand new one for 28k OTD, which is accord range.

tbonesteak

WTF......u are fail. You haven't been around a while i'm assuming. Miatas for 18 yr old first car? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA wow....speechless.

shadoquad

That's fair enough. We can differ on this opinion. Apparently, we both agree on one car in particular

In my opinion, affordable performance is sublime. I like to see young guys driving GC's, MS3's, Miatas, base Mustangs and Camaros. It gives me hope that car enthusiasts are driving fast and having fun. That said, I think there's also definitely a place for your Porsches, Vettes, and GTR's at the top of that range, and then all the ridiculous "I hit the lottery" supercars for us to daydream about above them. I love fast cars in general, from hot hatches to roadsters to out-and-out race cars. I think they all have their place.

Cmike2780

I think the competition would be good for both companies. Maybe we'll see a 450Z variant of the VK45DE from the Super GT 350Z or a 560Z variant of the VK56DE GTR-GT1. Chances are we won't anytime soon. The market for each, including the Genesis would be narrow at best. I don't see it as a viable option for Hyundai. It would eat up V6 sales if priced too low and would be entering upmarket competition if priced too high, I'm guessing 38k to 40k. The body style would also be similar to a car half the price. That's a huge undertaking that few companies have solved without having negative connotations. I like the design of the Genesis, but to me, it doesn't have the look of
$40k sports car.

Design wise:
$22k-Wow, Sweet Looking, Awesome
$32k-Nice, but could be better
$40k-Eh....

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