wat if they did 480hp using electric motor assist?

If there is a market and they can legally import it, it will come.

:iagree: After the last few years, where Congress has informed us that people want to buy crappy little econo-boxes instead of performance vehicles, GM sure did sell some Camaros, and Ford looks poised to sell a lot of new Mustangs.

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so you guys are saying tesla sabotaged the oil rig?

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Kenchan knows too much! Who've you been talking to?

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the Genesis' looks arent too far removed from the Tiburon, huge turnoff for me. Add as much power as you want, it'll be poorly balanced and overweight. As much as I hate to admit it, the new Mustang is looking more impressive every day.

Funny thing is, in this thread alone, there are a lot of members here that think the Z is lambo status...:tup:

In 2007 the Hyundai Sonata was the best selling car in Korea.

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This

The Gov bashed GM for selling big SUV's and Trucks whilst they should be selling more hybrids/small cars. News flash...the only automobiles GM was actually making a profit on were the big SUV's and Trucks. Until very recently, Toyota didn't make a penny on the Prius, it's a status symbol only. The Gov is pushing GM to sell thing it doesn't make profit on and get rid of things it's customers are willing to pay enough for to make a profit. That's the difference between the government and private industry running a business. "Profit" is just an evil capitalist pig word to the government. :D

Lots of people would want to buy heroin, but the government doesn't want us to because it is dangerous and causes people to become junkies that commit crimes like theft to pay for their fix. just because something can turn a profit doesn't mean it should be sold. People don't go out and buy big engine sports cars because they're practical, they are for fun. Sports cars will never make up enough of the market to make any impact on emissions. SUV's however, make up a huge part of the market, and curtailing their sale and thus, their emissions is important. YES peopel will buy big SUV's and therefore companies like GM would be able to turn a profit on them, but they arent good for the environment. If you're not hauling anything or going off road, you are really just driving a glorified minivan.

Gov't has every right to push GM to sell what they want it to because the gov't basically own's GM. If GM were capable of making cars that people wanted, they wouldn't have done so poorly and needed to be bailed out in the first place. They milked the SUV fad for all it was worth instead of R&D for the new generation of cars, and they suffer for it now.

I don't like the SUV-heroin metaphor. I don't completely disagree with the point, but it's not as if hybrids and electrics are the fruit and veggies in the automotive diet. They're still harming the environment.

edit: not going to derail this any further into a political debate.

i guess heroin isn't a good comparison. McDonalds would be a better example. My point is just that just because you have someone who wants to buy something, doesn't mean that its ethical to sell it. I also hate when sports cars are compared to SUV's in terms of emissions. it shouldn't fall upon ferari to make their cars more fuel efficient. It should fall upon the mass auto manufacturers.

Hyundia, even if they made this car, would still probably be overall a more fuel efficient fleet than GM.

So, diffeerent rules for different makers when it suits your purpose.....got it.



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