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TheShoura 06-13-2010 01:04 PM

cant pull the trigger...
 
Ok so well to make a long story short, I drive my dads car right now and I want something of my own.. my current car is a VERSA, **** sucks to drive man, its so slow and boring :(

I've talked up about getting something sporty and my parents don't even want to help me buying something that expensive, they thing I'm stupid.. well... I'm 20 and I'm pulling in decent income.. I was initially going for a genesis coupe.. 3.8 track model would be nice and is fully loaded under 28k

However the 370Z seems so much more appealing for a couple reasons.. The Genesis coupe has a lot of problems.. If you search some of its related forums, they've got manual gearbox problems, the engine making crazy noises, and there's a general lack of aftermarket support for now (its increasing..)

I like the 370Z but I'm sure its had its fair share of quirks.. I see a lot about oil temp, but...is that it? I've gone through several different forum boards and all I see is 'if u drive hard get an oil cooler'... is that really it?

Also, I can't convince myself that the 370Z is worth the extra 8-12k its gonna cost me.. None of the dealerships have a manual 370Z... I want to test drive one before I finally decide what I want to get, yet nobody has a manual 370Z in stock... :shakes head:

For the features, I'm looking at Touring with Sport package.. I had a dealer offer me the 40th aniversary edition for like 36k... that doesn't make much sense, if they are rarer? Are these just glorified base models?

I'm in the works of getting quoted for the loan I would need to get this car, insurance is hurting though

Nick911sc 06-13-2010 01:08 PM

Insurance is going to be a deciding factor for you honestly. And I'd say yes the 370z justifies the extra money over the Genesis(my opinion?)

As far as problems besides the oil temp...

Do you track the car? On the track people have complained about the brakes. But that's stock brakes on a TRACK. If you're just doing street driving I'd say the oil problem is the only thing. But, living in NY I don't see too much problems with my oil temperature so far.

frost 06-13-2010 01:10 PM

I live in Phoenix, oil temp has never been an issue. Even the couple times I've raced. Maybe I'm just a lucky one.

cfweber 06-13-2010 01:12 PM

life is a journey
 
There's a chasm between a Versa and a 370Z, and maybe you don't make it all the way across the Snake river, even on a rocket bike.

You're young. If you go with a Genesis next, it's not the end, just

1 more car you'll own along the way.

TheShoura 06-13-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 574956)
Insurance is going to be a deciding factor for you honestly. And I'd say yes the 370z justifies the extra money over the Genesis(my opinion?)

As far as problems besides the oil temp...

Do you track the car? On the track people have complained about the breaks. But that's stock breaks on a TRACK. If you're just doing street driving I'd say the oil problem is the only thing. But, living in NY I don't see too much problems with my oil temperature so far.

I do plan to head to the local track a few times

Are the "NISMO" brake upgrades from Nissan worth anything? or should I do my own aftermarket stuff
Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 574959)
I live in Phoenix, oil temp has never been an issue. Even the couple times I've raced. Maybe I'm just a lucky one.

Thats good to hear, cus PHX area is freakin oven-like :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfweber (Post 574962)
There's a chasm between a Versa and a 370Z, and maybe you don't make it all the way across the Snake river, even on a rocket bike.

You're young. If you go with a Genesis next, it's not the end, just

1 more car you'll own along the way.

I'm young, also impatient :p

I understand geting the Z is a big jump. I understand I'm gonna need to take it easy so I don't wreck the new car right away lol... I like to think I'm responsible :tup:


Also, thanks for the fast replies..

Question bout the packages... Is the SyncroRev worth anything in this car? Its the only real reason I wanna get the sport package

Also, I hear bad things about the Viscous LSD.. does it not come in the non-sport pack?

Trips 06-13-2010 01:22 PM

If you're going to be a lead foot or doing any Tracking? Install a cooler. The end

Nick911sc 06-13-2010 01:26 PM

Synchro-rev alone is worth the upgrade to the sports package. Also, the rims, brakes, spoiler and LSD helped as well for me. I don't track my car so these were welcome items.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2010 01:28 PM

This thread exposes a huge pet peeve of mine. :)

TheShoura 06-13-2010 01:28 PM

okay well that sounds good

but like I said.. is that it? lol. Someone mentioned brake fade.. is it bad with this car? should I replace the pads with ceramics and get crossdrilled rotors or something?

if thats the case Im pretty much sold on this car lol..

@nick: ok thanks for that, I just went back and looked again theres more than I thought :p

m4a1mustang: yes, i know, let me guess, this thread shows up once a week?

frost 06-13-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 575003)
This thread exposes a huge pet peeve of mine. :)

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...earch-noob.gif

m4a1mustang 06-13-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShoura (Post 575006)
m4a1mustang: yes, i know, let me guess, this thread shows up once a week?

No, no, no... it's not you.

I just hope you catch a lucky brake and get a good deal on your Z. Don't worry about the breaks... pads are an easy upgrade. ;)

m4a1mustang 06-13-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 575015)

That's not even it. Reference my previous post.

frost 06-13-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 575017)
That's not even it. Reference my previous post.

Referenced

Trips 06-13-2010 01:36 PM

Hey whats wrong with the Breaks?? :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

frost 06-13-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 575028)
Hey whats wrong with the Breaks?? :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

Why are my breaks always braking? Do I need cross drilled? :roflpuke2:

TheShoura 06-13-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 575028)
Hey whats wrong with the Breaks?? :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

Uhh..

forgive me for being so naive, but it was mentioned to me once upon a time that the Z had massive brake fade..


I searched but literally found nothing, so this is not true?

also, i'm not getting the references lol....

frost 06-13-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShoura (Post 575041)
Uhh..

forgive me for being so naive, but it was mentioned to me once upon a time that the Z had massive brake fade..


I searched but literally found nothing, so this is not true?

There is nothing wrong with the brakes. /end

m4a1mustang 06-13-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 575046)
There is nothing wrong with the brakes. /end

Exactly. Only the breaks are fading.

frost 06-13-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 575047)
Exactly. Only the breaks are fading.

Breaks are gonna brake, and haters gonna hate.

frost 06-13-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 575054)
Breaks are gonna brake, and haters gonna hate.

Also, gators gonna gate

http://bodec01.files.wordpress.com/2...atal-valve.jpg

TheShoura 06-13-2010 01:48 PM

Did I really just spell that wrong? or are you guys trolling me?

http://drunkenachura.files.wordpress...-wait-what.jpg

frost 06-13-2010 01:49 PM

Not you ;]

TheShoura 06-13-2010 01:49 PM

okay I was starting to freak out a little there rofl thinking i forgot how to spell :O

Nick911sc 06-13-2010 02:07 PM

lol i spelled brakes breaks oh well

TheShoura 06-13-2010 02:17 PM

well breaks do break and vice versa

but I think I've come down to weather or not my paperwork goes through for the loan and insurance :p I ran by wells fargo to get a quote on an auto loan and will hear back Mon or Tues

VCuomo 06-13-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShoura (Post 574953)
Ok so well to make a long story short, I drive my dads car right now and I want something of my own.. my current car is a VERSA, **** sucks to drive man, its so slow and boring :(

I've talked up about getting something sporty and my parents don't even want to help me buying something that expensive, they thing I'm stupid.. well... I'm 20 and I'm pulling in decent income.. I was initially going for a genesis coupe.. 3.8 track model would be nice and is fully loaded under 28k

However the 370Z seems so much more appealing for a couple reasons.. The Genesis coupe has a lot of problems.. If you search some of its related forums, they've got manual gearbox problems, the engine making crazy noises, and there's a general lack of aftermarket support for now (its increasing..)

I like the 370Z but I'm sure its had its fair share of quirks.. I see a lot about oil temp, but...is that it? I've gone through several different forum boards and all I see is 'if u drive hard get an oil cooler'... is that really it?

Also, I can't convince myself that the 370Z is worth the extra 8-12k its gonna cost me.. None of the dealerships have a manual 370Z... I want to test drive one before I finally decide what I want to get, yet nobody has a manual 370Z in stock... :shakes head:

For the features, I'm looking at Touring with Sport package.. I had a dealer offer me the 40th aniversary edition for like 36k... that doesn't make much sense, if they are rarer? Are these just glorified base models?

I'm in the works of getting quoted for the loan I would need to get this car, insurance is hurting though

You "cant pull the trigger" because you can't afford the gun...

BTW, your parents don't owe you anything. And there's the old saying "beggars can't be choosy", so who cares if what you drive right now is "slow and boring". Save your money, then buy what you can afford.

LunaZ 06-13-2010 02:22 PM

I typically drive in a "spirited" manner on public roadways and have yet to see my oil temps go above 220. And that 220 was while playing --- mph tag with a 350Z on the MD/DC beltways on a 90 degree day.

The day I experience higher temps or rev limiting, I'll order a cooler and you guys can say "told you so".
Until then, I'm not worried about it or eager to add more connections and possible leak points to my oiling system.

The brakes or breaks seem to work just fine for hauling the car down from brakeneck or breakneck speeds during spirited driving on public roadways.

SynchroRev is a worthwhile feature to have.

SMcK23 06-13-2010 02:24 PM

I got a brand new 350z at 21 years-old and some of the insurance quotes I got were outrageous!

However, then I went to Geico and they were actually 1/3 of what other insurance companies were for me (Progressive, State Farm, etc.).

The reason being they do not categorize males as "youthful drivers" if they are under 25 years-old. I don't know what your driving record looks like, but mine was spotless (no accidents and no speeding tickets) and that is why they could do that for me.

I got quoted the same for the 350z as I did a Corvette z06 and a 2.5 Altima S...so maybe you can look into it! Good luck! I pay about $700 for 6 months!

Matt 06-13-2010 02:28 PM

ITT: Old guys that are made because a 20 year old can afford the Z.


@ OP: It's your money. Test drive the cars you're looking at and figure out if the extra money is worth the extra stuff. If you decide to go with the Z, definitely don't skip the Sports Package.

Dan37TZ 06-13-2010 02:38 PM

Hmmm... you're 20. Maybe you shouldn't be looking at $35,000-40,000 cars?

20 year old in a high powered rwd 2 seater expensive sports car? = insurance raping.

+ higher maintenance cost and fuel consumption.

I think your parents are very smart trying to talk you out of it. I even think a 3.8 Genesis is a bit much.

Have you ever thought about something along the lines of a new Civic Si? Those are fanstastic fun cars, FWD so it won't necessarily bite your head off if you make a mistake.

Nick911sc 06-13-2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan37TZ (Post 575177)
Hmmm... you're 20. Maybe you shouldn't be looking at $35,000-40,000 cars?

20 year old in a high powered rwd 2 seater expensive sports car? = insurance raping.

+ higher maintenance cost and fuel consumption.

I think your parents are very smart trying to talk you out of it. I even think a 3.8 Genesis is a bit much.

Have you ever thought about something along the lines of a new Civic Si? Those are fanstastic fun cars, FWD so it won't necessarily bite your head off if you make a mistake.


I understand it may be dangerous or even stupid from a money perspective for OP to get the Z. But it's his choice and he didn't come here to be lectured otherwise. So lets stick with the Z or Genesis conversation.

TBH I don't really know if many people know or care but I'm 22 and I have no problem driving or affording my Z.

Modshack 06-13-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShoura (Post 575041)
Uhh..

forgive me for being so naive, but it was mentioned to me once upon a time that the Z had massive brake fade..

..

Only if you're gonna string (30) 100 to Zero stops together back to back like those morons at Car ad Driver..

frost 06-13-2010 02:53 PM

I had a new vette at 25, don't pretend to know the financial stability of others.

Pushing_Tin 06-13-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 575015)

OMG, that's awesome!! :tup:

Dan37TZ 06-13-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 575192)
I had a new vette at 25, don't pretend to know the financial stability of others.

The OP started a thread, stating his parents think he is stupid for wanting to buy something that "EXPENSIVE" and that was intially just a Genesis coupe.

If the OP is driving a Versa and at 20 years old, parents think a Hyundai is expensive. I think it's fair to assume that another $12,000 stretch for a loaded 370Z will be even a more financial burden on the OP and his parents.

That's great you got to drive a $50,000 car at 25 years old, you must be super ballin'.

frost 06-13-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan37TZ (Post 575200)
The OP started a thread, stating his parents think he is stupid for wanting to buy something that "EXPENSIVE" and that was intially just a Genesis coupe.

If the OP is driving a Versa and at 20 years old, parents think a Hyundai is expensive. I think it's fair to assume that another $12,000 stretch for a loaded 370Z will be even a more financial burden on the OP and his parents.

That's great you got to drive a $50,000 car at 25 years old, you must be super ballin'.

I'm sure people thought I was stupid for buying an expensive car, doesn't mean I couldn't afford it. :rolleyes:

Trips 06-13-2010 03:03 PM

Just a warning!
http://images56.fotki.com/v1599/phot.../vdcoff-vi.jpg

Dan37TZ 06-13-2010 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 575201)
I'm sure people thought I was stupid for buying an expensive car, doesn't mean I couldn't afford it. :rolleyes:

I guess you missed the part where the OP stated his parents didn't want to help him buy the car. :rolleyes:

Here let me quote it for you.
Quote:

my parents don't even want to help me buying something that expensive

frost 06-13-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan37TZ (Post 575206)
I guess you missed the part where the OP stated his parents didn't want to help him buy the car. :rolleyes:

Here let me quote it for you.

Did you see my previous comment, tosser? Or do I need to quote it for you, smartass? Just because his parents don't like the idea doesn't mean he can't afford it.

Trips 06-13-2010 03:08 PM

:stirthepot:


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