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JaseyCar 05-30-2010 01:29 AM

Deciding between s2000 and 370z.
 
Not trying to start anything, but on s2ki.com I was asking which one to get? They said 370z is all power and that's it.

Any thoughts? I need to definitely test drive both before deciding.

gleonard 05-30-2010 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JaseyCar (Post 555864)
Not trying to start anything, but on s2ki.com I was asking which one to get? They said 370z is all power and that's it.

Any thoughts? I need to definitely test drive both before deciding.

370 looks better too!

Trips 05-30-2010 01:36 AM

You need to check them both out, and test drive both, and make the decision for yourself. most here are going to be biased of course. good luck

esfourteen 05-30-2010 01:41 AM

the s2000 may be more nimble in the corners, but the Z is VERY capable in the handling department. Anyone who says the Z is "all power" has either never driven one or just likes to talk trash. If you plan on driving lots of short technical tracks buy an s2k, otherwise get the Z =]

6spd 05-30-2010 01:49 AM

personally, i would take internet comments/opinions with a grain of salt... except this one, and this one, and this one...................

test drive both, good night.

mattkim85 05-30-2010 01:54 AM

i currently own an 08 AP2 S2K and a 09 370Z. i think its safe to say that i am not as biased as other members around here on the forum. :tup:

I bought the 370Z first when it came out and it sorta wasnt what i wanted, so i decided to sell it and get an S2K. (this whole dilemma was going on last year august?)

Ever since, I have had both in my garage sorta wanting to sell the S2K (i barely drive it around) and keep the Z. Why? honestly the Z spoiled it for me with the low end torque. And it is also easier to live with. (more interior room, larger trunk.)

Do i regret getting the Z? Hell no.
Do i regret getting the S2K? not really.
At the age of 24, the S had everything that the Z was missing ,but in the end, the Z had alot more to offer than the S.

i didnt want to go into much details because you probably read alot of reviews about both cars. Just think about what you would really want. A raw sports car that looks outdated(personal preference) or a newly designed sports car with little amenities that you would appreciate for the next... 3-5 years.

BLUESLATE 05-30-2010 01:55 AM

S2000 for me. 04/05 for non drive by wire to be specific. If you want drive by wire, go with 08/09... or CR.

If you're going to stay in the streets 90% of the times (meaning very very little track time), I say go with 370Z. You'll be a much happier camper. ;) Can't beat the low end torque of the VQ with a 4 banger... haha

BLUESLATE 05-30-2010 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mattkim85 (Post 555874)
i currently own an 08 AP2 S2K and a 09 370Z. i think its safe to say that i am not as biased as other members around here on the forum. :tup:

I bought the 370Z first when it came out and it sorta wasnt what i wanted, so i decided to sell it and get an S2K. (this whole dilemma was going on last year august?)

Ever since, I have had both in my garage sorta wanting to sell the S2K (i barely drive it around) and keep the Z. Why? honestly the Z spoiled it for me with the low end torque. And it is also easier to live with. (more interior room, larger trunk.)

Do i regret getting the Z? Hell no.
Do i regret getting the S2K? not really.
At the age of 24, the S had everything that the Z was missing ,but in the end, the Z had alot more to offer than the S.

i didnt want to go into much details because you probably read alot of reviews about both cars. Just think about what you would really want. A raw sports car that looks outdated(personal preference) or a newly designed sports car with little amenities that you would appreciate for the next... 3-5 years.

Very good point. Only thing to differentiate the two right now would be the price. ;) Z being new will be more expensive, but it will have more up-to-date tech in it. Heck, S2000s don't even come with Nav as a factory option. haha

I'd still go with a S2000 tho'. It'd be nice to own both. :icon17:

EDIT: To add a little more... I'd say S2000 is pure driver's car... whereas a Z34 is a all around nice/comfy/fast car.

mattkim85 05-30-2010 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BLUESLATE (Post 555879)
Very good point. Only thing to differentiate the two right now would be the price. ;) Z being new will be more expensive, but it will have more up-to-date tech in it. Heck, S2000s don't even come with Nav as a factory option. haha

I'd still go with a S2000 tho'. It'd be nice to own both. :icon17:

EDIT: To add a little more... I'd say S2000 is pure driver's car... whereas a Z34 is a all around nice/comfy/fast car.

agreed +1

ducky 05-30-2010 02:10 AM

i have both the S and Z in my garage..i would def get the Z.

tbonesteak 05-30-2010 02:32 AM

Don't listen to all the things that s2ki has to say. That board is one of the most immature boards I've ever been in. I came from an 07 s2k. Do I still miss the S at times? Yes. I think the s2k is one of the best engineered cars ever made. Nothing feels like it even at double that price range. Do I regret selling it for the Z? Hell no. The Z is a completely different beast I'll admit. It's not as nimble and quick on its feet but it just completely rapes the S in so many other areas that I was willing to give up that nimbleness to obtain the other factors. I'm not saying that the Z is not nimble, because by anyone's standards it still is, but the S is in a class of its own when it comes to being quick and light on its feet. I love the Z and it's definitely a huge upgrade in every category to me. The s2k even tho started production in 2000, the technology is from 1995 when they started engineering it, and the car definitely shows age.

Dan Z Man 05-30-2010 07:02 AM

i had just gotten rid of my s2k...plain and simple. torque. i know it doesnt mean everything but damn it was a killer not having any of it...amazing car, but i think Z wins this one, if it were s2k VS 350z i would say s2k, but not against 370

kenchan 05-30-2010 07:48 AM

They are two very different cars. You should go test drive both. I was checking out the CR (with AC version) but decided on the Z.

I think the CR would fit me better physically, but the Z feels more streetable and actually more refined. First impressions: CR felt like a modded honda. Z felt like a bimmer.

370Zsteve 05-30-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak (Post 555890)
Don't listen to all the things that s2ki has to say. That board is one of the most immature boards I've ever been in. I came from an 07 s2k. Do I still miss the S at times? Yes. I think the s2k is one of the best engineered cars ever made. Nothing feels like it even at double that price range. Do I regret selling it for the Z? Hell no. The Z is a completely different beast I'll admit. It's not as nimble and quick on its feet but it just completely rapes the S in so many other areas that I was willing to give up that nimbleness to obtain the other factors. I'm not saying that the Z is not nimble, because by anyone's standards it still is, but the S is in a class of its own when it comes to being quick and light on its feet. I love the Z and it's definitely a huge upgrade in every category to me. The s2k even tho started production in 2000, the technology is from 1995 when they started engineering it, and the car definitely shows age.

+1 rep :tiphat:

ilive2win 05-30-2010 11:33 AM

check out the best times at the end between the s2k and the z here in this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vkvk5a2BeY

SkyZ 05-30-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ilive2win (Post 556120)
check out the best times at the end between the s2k and the z here in this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vkvk5a2BeY

heyyyy the guy in the Z is using syncrorev match

frost 05-30-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 555872)
personally, i would take internet comments/opinions with a grain of salt... except this one, and this one, and this one...................

test drive both, good night.

What?!?!? I get all my advice off the interwebz. Think of all the time I save not having to think for myself!

daleks 05-30-2010 12:08 PM

I cross shopped the S2000 when purchasing my old 350Z. Coming from a Civic Si I liked the high red-line, but knew I needed more low-end torque for a daily driver. Now the 370Z has a better interior and more modern tech, but you should be able to pick up an S2000 for significantly cheaper.

DarkZide 05-30-2010 12:39 PM

A friend of mine just put a turbo kit on his s2000 and made 300whp and 198wtq. Not even as much wheel tq as a stock 370 and about the same whp as a 370 with full exhaust. While it weighs 300~ lbs less, that still pretty weak.

I think guys look like homo's in a 2 seater convertible anyway.

Vegitto-kun 05-30-2010 12:41 PM

I personally love the S2000's look but I prefer the 370

also don't want to buy second hand cars since you never know what happened to them

Zsteve 05-30-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 556175)
A friend of mine just put a turbo kit on his s2000 and made 300whp and 198wtq. Not even as much wheel tq as a stock 370 and about the same whp as a 370 with full exhaust. While it weighs 300~ lbs less, that still pretty weak.

I think guys look like homo's in a 2 seater convertible anyway.

198 tq sounds kinda off. I had a 4 cyl turbo and with a chip it had 300 tq and that was a small turbo for low end power. I dont think he matched the right turbo for the car.

DarkZide 05-30-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 556285)
198 tq sounds kinda off. I had a 4 cyl turbo and with a chip it had 300 tq and that was a small turbo for low end power. I dont think he matched the right turbo for the car.

I dont remember the exact trims of what he bought but they did sound way too big for such a small motor.

You made 300wtq out of a 4cyl? Which one?

Zsteve 05-30-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 556291)
I dont remember the exact trims of what he bought but they did sound way too big for such a small motor.

You made 300wtq out of a 4cyl? Which one?

Audi TT 2.0T. It had 280 hp and 300 tq with a chip and downpipe. But it was FWD so it had to be feathered off the start.

UNKNOWN_370 05-30-2010 02:17 PM

Don't go by what you hear. Lat acceleration is way higher on the Z, ridgidity is higher. The S2000 is dated imho. Roadsters are not my cup of tea.
But hey... test drive em both instead of getting opinions. Make your own opinion. But just remember, when someone can't say something nice about a car with a legendary reputation? That's called HATE and there opinions are worthless. And that goes for all brands, I'm not saying that cuz we in the Z forum.

JACKPAC 05-30-2010 02:23 PM

I didn't have an S2000, but I did have a RSX type S, which is a honda 4cl with a high rev line. It was fun, but to get anywhere quick you really have to ring out each gear. Same as in the S, I would assume. The Z is so much more effortless and more fun to drive on a day to day basis.

DarkZide 05-30-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 556295)
Audi TT 2.0T. It had 280 hp and 300 tq with a chip and downpipe. But it was FWD so it had to be feathered off the start.

I knew it wasnt a honda ;)

I even think the NSX is a waste of money. a C6 z06 is superior in basically every way, and for less money.

chuckd05 05-31-2010 04:59 PM

I had a 01 s2000 and a 03 s 2000 ( one was totaled out, and I got another , I was T boned at an intersection while waiting to make a left by a drunk ) Held up REALLY well I was impressed, I walked away fine and the guy was going 40ish mph Id guess ( he fell asleep )

S2000 is a sick car to drive, but its slower and smaller.

I loved the s2000 but I think I love my 370 more than the s2000.

But neither of them dissapointed...

I am also willing to bet that 97% of the guys on s2ki are talking out of their *** and have no real experience behind the wheel of 370s because the car has a ton more than just power. Most honda guys are nissan haters so its to be expected.

Red370 05-31-2010 05:27 PM

im still trying to figure out why these cars are even being compared, the Z is in a completely different class. Period.

DarkZide 05-31-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 557483)
im still trying to figure out why these cars are even being compared, the Z with sport package is in a completely different class. Period.

Fixed. :tup:

AK370Z 05-31-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyZ (Post 556139)
heyyyy the guy in the Z is using syncrorev match

That guy is Seiji Ara, winner of 24 Hours of Le Mans ('04) :bowdown:

Dpeters 06-01-2010 02:13 PM

I rarely post here but figured I'd chime in on this thread....

Back in 2004 I test drove an S2000 and was disappointed in several categories compared to the Z:

1. Torque was not all that. You had to wind it up to high RPMs just to get anything out of it.
2. It simply felt like I was driving a go-kart. In fairness, this is how many people like their car to feel but I just felt the Z was a bit more refined.
3. The soft top was no where near the ease of the Z. Having to get out of the car to put the cover on the back was annoying and simply not something I was going to do on a daily basis. The Z, having the hard cover, was simply a better option for me.... and better looking with the top down.

NOTE: I was specifically shopping for ragtops. Also, I have to say I was a little disappointed in the get up and go of the Z Roadster (even though I bought the Z and drove it for 5.5 years) but it simply seemed to be the better ride of the two.

I now own a 370 Nismo and I could honestly say that I'd never even try to compare the 370 and the S2k. The 370 is simply a far better car than both the 350 and the S2000.

With regards to the cornering ability.... Yes, the S2K might be able to handle slightly better than the Z due to less weight, but the Z will be so far ahead of the S2K that by the time the S2K had a chance to outhandle it, it's too late. The Z (both 350 and 370) will simply catch up or get further ahead upon every single straight away.

kenchan 06-01-2010 02:18 PM

blah, in 2004 you were 6yrs younger and there was no 370Z. you need to compare cars at the same time.

the S2K was never slow if not just as fast as the 350Z of that time. unless the driver just sucked.

Cyberium 06-01-2010 04:59 PM

It boils down to this.

Are you a woman. If you answer yes then you are allowed to drive a s2000.
Are you a man. If you answer yes then you are NOT allowed to drive a s2000.

I know this guy who is like 250 pounds and is 6'3 and drives a s2000 or miata (i honestly can't tell the difference) and I want to slap him in the face everytime I see him.

Just because.

NewlyIMPORTed 06-01-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 558722)
It boils down to this.

Are you a woman. If you answer yes then you are allowed to drive a s2000.
Are you a man. If you answer yes then you are NOT allowed to drive a s2000.

I know this guy who is like 250 pounds and is 6'3 and drives a s2000 or miata (i honestly can't tell the difference) and I want to slap him in the face everytime I see him.

Just because.

haha

KillerBee370 06-01-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 558722)
It boils down to this.

Are you a woman. If you answer yes then you are allowed to drive a s2000.
Are you a man. If you answer yes then you are NOT allowed to drive a s2000.

I know this guy who is like 250 pounds and is 6'3 and drives a s2000 or miata (i honestly can't tell the difference) and I want to slap him in the face everytime I see him.

Just because.

Well that logic is a little flawed but I do think the 370 is a bit more "grown up".

chuckd05 06-01-2010 05:45 PM

I ran a 13.9 in 2001 with my bone stock s2000.

Its not a slow car , compared to the GT mustangs and cars of its day, it was actualy pretty quick.

The Z will also take much more abuse before breaking down too, which is a big thing if its your daily driver that you plan to beat on.

Chriz 06-01-2010 06:34 PM

S2000 is a great car. Honestly I think its more fun to drive than the 370z, however I think the Z is easier to live with. My friend has a hardtop on his S2000 so idk anything about the convertable. I also love the engine in the S2000, it revs like none other.

wishihadnav 06-01-2010 06:36 PM

id just flip a coin..haha

Chriz 06-01-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 558722)
It boils down to this.

Are you a woman. If you answer yes then you are allowed to drive a s2000.
Are you a man. If you answer yes then you are NOT allowed to drive a s2000.

I know this guy who is like 250 pounds and is 6'3 and drives a s2000 or miata (i honestly can't tell the difference) and I want to slap him in the face everytime I see him.

Just because.

Also this post is just fail

Cyberium 06-01-2010 06:40 PM

Chriz... stop being so edgy with the Z at the end of your name and a giant phallic symbol as your picture. Your too cool.


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