Deciding between s2000 and 370z.

red6spd · 06-03-2010, 09:32 AM

Those S2K's were sick in those vids, but 23 pounds ouch!!!! Honda or not I cant see that car living that long. Then only thing I figure is 99% of the time he is running around with 8 pounds and only cranks it up to run a bike or something crazy like that.

Red370 · 06-03-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Those S2K's were sick in those vids, but 23 pounds ouch!!!! Honda or not I cant see that car living that long. Then only thing I figure is 99% of the time he is running around with 8 pounds and only cranks it up to run a bike or something crazy like that.

that kind of power cannot be sustained on stock internals, probably runs very low boost everywhere BUT the dyno.

Zeto · 06-03-2010, 01:05 PM

The point is Red370, that a boosted 370 is no match for a boosted S2K. Thanks my fellow members for showing him the light

Red370 · 06-03-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto

The point is Red370, that a boosted 370 is no match for a boosted S2K. Thanks my fellow members for showing him the light

and what exactly is your logic behind this? because one dyno queen S2000 had a solid pull? c'mon man really?

Zeto · 06-03-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

and what exactly is your logic behind this? because one dyno queen S2000 had a solid pull? c'mon man really?

No, the point is that you said a boosted S cannot beat a boosted Z all things beng equal.

First you said it couldn't do it. Now you say it can beat the Z but only once. I have 2 of my personal friends that DAILY drive 700+whp S2K's with stock internals. I have done my research and witnessed this personally, have you?

Red370 · 06-03-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto

No, the point is that you said a boosted S cannot beat a boosted Z all things beng equal.

First you said it couldn't do it. Now you say it can beat the Z but only once. I have 2 of my personal friends that DAILY drive 700+whp S2K's with stock internals. I have done my research and witnessed this personally, have you?

two friends eh?

agree to disagree.

tbonesteak · 06-03-2010, 01:43 PM

wow.....once you have civic drivers chiming in, thread goes to crap. Repeatedly. I owned an s2k and i was very involved with the crowd. I know the car literally 10 times more than i know the Z in every area. There is NO way you're gonna safely run 300 wtq for prolonged periods of time with stock internals and block. That 700whp vid is old. The owner did it solely for fun knowing the engine was gonna go. His plan was to rebuild it and make that much power reliably, but before doing it, he wanted to have some fun and see what kind of power the f20c could sustain. Just because it made that for a week or two don't mean it will run continuously. Come on people. Compare apples to apples. In terms of power, both stock and modified, the Z is NOT in the same league as the S. Like i admitted in a previous post, the S is an extremely well engineered piece of machinery. Maybe even one of the best engineered cars ever. However, the car was made in 1995 including the engine, drivetrain, chassis, etc. and it shows age. Admit certain things and give credit where it deserves people.

Red370 · 06-03-2010, 01:45 PM

/thread.

Zeto · 06-03-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

In terms of power, both stock and modified, the Z is NOT in the same league as the S. Like i admitted in a previous post, the S is an extremely well engineered piece of machinery. Maybe even one of the best engineered cars ever. However, the car was made in 1995 including the engine, drivetrain, chassis, etc. and it shows age. Admit certain things and give credit where it deserves people.

Very well said.

And yes I said 2 of my friends because I saw them first hand build it from the ground up. It's all about the tune that can make or break the car. Have you heard of Jeff Evans out in PA? If you haven't, I suggest you google him.

kielbasa16 · 06-03-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

wow.....once you have civic drivers chiming in, thread goes to crap. Repeatedly. I owned an s2k and i was very involved with the crowd. I know the car literally 10 times more than i know the Z in every area. There is NO way you're gonna safely run 300 wtq for prolonged periods of time with stock internals and block. That 700whp vid is old. The owner did it solely for fun knowing the engine was gonna go. His plan was to rebuild it and make that much power reliably, but before doing it, he wanted to have some fun and see what kind of power the f20c could sustain. Just because it made that for a week or two don't mean it will run continuously. Come on people. Compare apples to apples. In terms of power, both stock and modified, the Z is NOT in the same league as the S. Like i admitted in a previous post, the S is an extremely well engineered piece of machinery. Maybe even one of the best engineered cars ever. However, the car was made in 1995 including the engine, drivetrain, chassis, etc. and it shows age. Admit certain things and give credit where it deserves people.

Selective reading much?

Zeto · 06-03-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kielbasa16

Selective reading much?

Tell that to my friend who's been boosted for over a year and has put about 20,000 miles in his S. Would you like evidence?

kenchan · 06-03-2010, 02:18 PM

hey atleast we're comparing sushi with sashimi (not hamburgers and kimchee)

DRoc7822 · 06-03-2010, 02:51 PM

The 370 has only been out for 2 production years while the S2k had been out for a longer run than that. Like someone else already said on here, when it comes to modding the 370 has a lot more room to grow. Ive seen TT 2JZ (Supra engines) put into S2k before that made nasty power. You can make any car "fast", it just depends on how much money the person is willing to throw at it.

red6spd · 06-03-2010, 02:53 PM

Dam now I'm Hungry

Cyberium · 06-03-2010, 03:15 PM

I don't care how much power you can squeeze out of it. If you look like an adult in a power-wheel's when your driving it, then it's fail.com

Anyone of us could of bought a car that weighs 1000 pounds and then boosted the hell out of it to have a "faster" car than the Z. Fast isn't always the point.

The Z is in a different class entirely on many different levels.

And if you guys have such a hard-on for the s2000 then

and go buy one.

It's like when my cousin who has like a 97' honda hatchback says "Man, I'd probably smoke that Z when I get my turbo's installed" And I say... "Yeah maybe, but at the end of the day your driving a 97 Honda Hatchback"

/end thread

06-03-2010, 09:32 AM	#76 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Those S2K's were sick in those vids, but 23 pounds ouch!!!! Honda or not I cant see that car living that long. Then only thing I figure is 99% of the time he is running around with 8 pounds and only cranks it up to run a bike or something crazy like that. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	/thread. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

06-03-2010, 02:53 PM	#89 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Dam now I'm Hungry __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

06-03-2010, 03:15 PM	#90 (permalink)
Cyberium Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 379 Drives: 370z Touring \| Sport Rep Power: 16	I don't care how much power you can squeeze out of it. If you look like an adult in a power-wheel's when your driving it, then it's fail.com Anyone of us could of bought a car that weighs 1000 pounds and then boosted the hell out of it to have a "faster" car than the Z. Fast isn't always the point. The Z is in a different class entirely on many different levels. And if you guys have such a hard-on for the s2000 then and go buy one. It's like when my cousin who has like a 97' honda hatchback says "Man, I'd probably smoke that Z when I get my turbo's installed" And I say... "Yeah maybe, but at the end of the day your driving a 97 Honda Hatchback" /end thread __________________ Stillen G3 Intakes \| F. I TDX

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tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	wow.....once you have civic drivers chiming in, thread goes to crap. Repeatedly. I owned an s2k and i was very involved with the crowd. I know the car literally 10 times more than i know the Z in every area. There is NO way you're gonna safely run 300 wtq for prolonged periods of time with stock internals and block. That 700whp vid is old. The owner did it solely for fun knowing the engine was gonna go. His plan was to rebuild it and make that much power reliably, but before doing it, he wanted to have some fun and see what kind of power the f20c could sustain. Just because it made that for a week or two don't mean it will run continuously. Come on people. Compare apples to apples. In terms of power, both stock and modified, the Z is NOT in the same league as the S. Like i admitted in a previous post, the S is an extremely well engineered piece of machinery. Maybe even one of the best engineered cars ever. However, the car was made in 1995 including the engine, drivetrain, chassis, etc. and it shows age. Admit certain things and give credit where it deserves people.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	hey atleast we're comparing sushi with sashimi (not hamburgers and kimchee)

06-03-2010, 02:51 PM	#88 (permalink)
DRoc7822 Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 67 Drives: 08 Mazdaspeed 3 Rep Power: 364	The 370 has only been out for 2 production years while the S2k had been out for a longer run than that. Like someone else already said on here, when it comes to modding the 370 has a lot more room to grow. Ive seen TT 2JZ (Supra engines) put into S2k before that made nasty power. You can make any car "fast", it just depends on how much money the person is willing to throw at it.